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Hey Strato....did your spellcheck break down!...Buddy!!
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1. No unless you are very lucky
2. Random rostering no bid line although requests are accepted...no guarantees!...
3. No commuting contract (upto the individual if he wants to do it!).. not aware of any plans for overseas base.
4. 700AED per diem (duty day) 350 for SBY....no flight pay.
5. Sorry not on the Bus
6. Some of us are happy but if you read the EY threads you will hear a lot who are not....do your homework and decide if its for you
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1. No unless you are very lucky
2. Random rostering no bid line although requests are accepted...no guarantees!...
3. No commuting contract (upto the individual if he wants to do it!).. not aware of any plans for overseas base.
4. 700AED per diem (duty day) 350 for SBY....no flight pay.
5. Sorry not on the Bus
6. Some of us are happy but if you read the EY threads you will hear a lot who are not....do your homework and decide if its for you
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Tintin re: ETIHAD again ETIHAD
1. I doubt you'll find a villa for 108,000 or one of a standard you would accept. You could possibly find a decent one at that price in one of the satellite towns that surround Abu Dhabi or try Al Ain where some crew already stay.
2. AED700 is for each day you are on duty, it includes flight pay. There are no other allowances on top.
3. No overseas bases. No commuting contracts. We have a few commuters already but only to such places as Bahrain.
4. Hours vary, especially now with the A345. I average around 40-50 per month at the moment with a mix of long and shorthaul on both A332 and A343/345. I understand the hours will increase next year with the arrival of yet more aircraft.
5. Myself and family very happy and content. As has been said countless times only negative, as far as I am concerned, is accommodation which has improved but still falls very short of my expectations. Company accommodation I would not live in, terrible choice of buildings rather than its only what we can afford I believe. Then again its free so should anyone complain?
1. I doubt you'll find a villa for 108,000 or one of a standard you would accept. You could possibly find a decent one at that price in one of the satellite towns that surround Abu Dhabi or try Al Ain where some crew already stay.
2. AED700 is for each day you are on duty, it includes flight pay. There are no other allowances on top.
3. No overseas bases. No commuting contracts. We have a few commuters already but only to such places as Bahrain.
4. Hours vary, especially now with the A345. I average around 40-50 per month at the moment with a mix of long and shorthaul on both A332 and A343/345. I understand the hours will increase next year with the arrival of yet more aircraft.
5. Myself and family very happy and content. As has been said countless times only negative, as far as I am concerned, is accommodation which has improved but still falls very short of my expectations. Company accommodation I would not live in, terrible choice of buildings rather than its only what we can afford I believe. Then again its free so should anyone complain?
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Etihad / AUH
Hello guys!
I am new to this and I just would like to ask for some infos...
I already read through the "Etihad - all you need to know..."-thread in this forum, but I didn't find what I wanted to know.
Here comes:
What is life in AUH like while flying for Etihad (F/O on Airbus)? Can somebody post some details about rosters (days off, stability, stby, nights home per month etc), and living in AUH (costs of living, social life among expats and so on), please? I am thinking about applying there so I'm trying to get as much info as possible before I do so. We'll have a little baby shortly so one major factor for me is living there with a little one and how often will I be able to see it???
Thanks a lot, all answers are highly apprecciated!!!
HossaJose
I am new to this and I just would like to ask for some infos...
I already read through the "Etihad - all you need to know..."-thread in this forum, but I didn't find what I wanted to know.
Here comes:
What is life in AUH like while flying for Etihad (F/O on Airbus)? Can somebody post some details about rosters (days off, stability, stby, nights home per month etc), and living in AUH (costs of living, social life among expats and so on), please? I am thinking about applying there so I'm trying to get as much info as possible before I do so. We'll have a little baby shortly so one major factor for me is living there with a little one and how often will I be able to see it???
Thanks a lot, all answers are highly apprecciated!!!
HossaJose
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Yes he upset many and made many happy. like the Eastenders EY is turing to ...... drama after drama, back stabbing, firing old and new enemies.
Who is the next CEO ? .. I heard David Brent a.k.a Ricky Gervais from The Office is next. I bet his good init ?
What a Kerfuffle ?
they stopped moving Male Crew to a diffrent buildings and they say it's okay now for males to stay with Females in one building and earlier they said it is the Goverment who wants males seperated from Females so what we can see now all lies were from the begining so how can expceted Crew to do what they call it PERFECT HOST on board aftr all the hussle with Housing Department.
Loads of EY Crew are moving to EK or packing back Home some with loans and some just with some EY playing cards and training and layovers photos to keep for memory.
The Big Bahraini VP Bloke is gone.
AR the Housing Bloke... khalaas is back to Gamco Mamma hangar.. good for the company and I guess all the C.Crew and F.Dick are happy now.
N**ed B... is in next episode more news to come.
A bin Seif no longer in charge ( Bad news for Moroccan Crew no more late night phone calls and shouting at your CM that is you have a big back support )
Finance Lads there, Any news about Meal allowances or wages increasment for Cabin Crew ? many are upset and threating the company to walk in group in Febaruary to a neighbour Airline if they don't get Meal allowances they been promised for the last 2 years. I heard last deadline is in january.
Happy Flying....
Cheers
Who is the next CEO ? .. I heard David Brent a.k.a Ricky Gervais from The Office is next. I bet his good init ?
What a Kerfuffle ?
they stopped moving Male Crew to a diffrent buildings and they say it's okay now for males to stay with Females in one building and earlier they said it is the Goverment who wants males seperated from Females so what we can see now all lies were from the begining so how can expceted Crew to do what they call it PERFECT HOST on board aftr all the hussle with Housing Department.
Loads of EY Crew are moving to EK or packing back Home some with loans and some just with some EY playing cards and training and layovers photos to keep for memory.
The Big Bahraini VP Bloke is gone.
AR the Housing Bloke... khalaas is back to Gamco Mamma hangar.. good for the company and I guess all the C.Crew and F.Dick are happy now.
N**ed B... is in next episode more news to come.
A bin Seif no longer in charge ( Bad news for Moroccan Crew no more late night phone calls and shouting at your CM that is you have a big back support )
Finance Lads there, Any news about Meal allowances or wages increasment for Cabin Crew ? many are upset and threating the company to walk in group in Febaruary to a neighbour Airline if they don't get Meal allowances they been promised for the last 2 years. I heard last deadline is in january.
Happy Flying....
Cheers
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Simple question
Hi!
I had a post a little while ago asking about life in AUH as an Expat pilot. Is there really nobody in here who is willing to give me some details about rosters on the Airbus, the cost of living, social life among Expats and how it is to raise a kid there?
Thanks again for any kind of help/advise!!!
HossaJose
I had a post a little while ago asking about life in AUH as an Expat pilot. Is there really nobody in here who is willing to give me some details about rosters on the Airbus, the cost of living, social life among Expats and how it is to raise a kid there?
Thanks again for any kind of help/advise!!!
HossaJose
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How about searching?...
If you continue searching (I know it takes time...) you'll find some more stuff.
Good luck!!!
Hi Ian,
So far its been a blast. Its not perfect by any means but I've had no regrets. I enjoy living in Abu Dhabi and the lifestyle it offers and after a long time I now look forward to going to work.
Accommodation is probably the biggest drawback. The Company provided is barely sufficient in my opinion but then it depends on what you are expecting or are used to. The overall package appears to be always under review and so far it has only improved except for standby duty which is now paid at half the original rate. The arrival of James Hogan has been seen as very positive by all the ex Gulf Air crew here but for the majority of us the verdit is still out. Its hard to say how he'll do after such a short time.
Cost of living I consider reasonable but again it is what you are accustomed to and what lifestyle you expect to maintain and wife too now I think of it. There is no tax and your biggest purchase will probably be a boat or a car which are much cheaper than the prices I am used to back in Europe. Loans are no problem once you have your UAE residence visa which takes about 2 weeks.
Flying wise I doubt you will find better. The relationship with the cabin crew is excellent. I haven't felt any pressure from above on fuel or delays etc which again has been a welcome change. The rosters are a little odd in the flight distribution where you tend to have a week of tight flying then a relaxed week etc but at the end of the month most importantly I don't feel anywhere near as tired as I did in my previous Company.
I have found my greener grass for now but again I cannot speak for all. If you are offered an interview then I would suggest at least using it to have a look if nothing else. Best of luck.
So far its been a blast. Its not perfect by any means but I've had no regrets. I enjoy living in Abu Dhabi and the lifestyle it offers and after a long time I now look forward to going to work.
Accommodation is probably the biggest drawback. The Company provided is barely sufficient in my opinion but then it depends on what you are expecting or are used to. The overall package appears to be always under review and so far it has only improved except for standby duty which is now paid at half the original rate. The arrival of James Hogan has been seen as very positive by all the ex Gulf Air crew here but for the majority of us the verdit is still out. Its hard to say how he'll do after such a short time.
Cost of living I consider reasonable but again it is what you are accustomed to and what lifestyle you expect to maintain and wife too now I think of it. There is no tax and your biggest purchase will probably be a boat or a car which are much cheaper than the prices I am used to back in Europe. Loans are no problem once you have your UAE residence visa which takes about 2 weeks.
Flying wise I doubt you will find better. The relationship with the cabin crew is excellent. I haven't felt any pressure from above on fuel or delays etc which again has been a welcome change. The rosters are a little odd in the flight distribution where you tend to have a week of tight flying then a relaxed week etc but at the end of the month most importantly I don't feel anywhere near as tired as I did in my previous Company.
I have found my greener grass for now but again I cannot speak for all. If you are offered an interview then I would suggest at least using it to have a look if nothing else. Best of luck.
Good luck!!!
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Thanks, I had read that, and I've also been searching a lot. The only thing is, I've been looking for more detailed information, but never mind, I just continue searching!
Thanks, I had read that, and I've also been searching a lot. The only thing is, I've been looking for more detailed information, but never mind, I just continue searching!
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HossaJose,
According to people working with EY and this Forum posts, education allowance is now suitable but the housing allowance is very short of the prices on offer for a decent apartment or a villa. Now, without any prejudice, DECENT will have very different interpretations. You may well need to stand in with a minimum of 30% of you own ca$h to get a good home.
EY is very good for either start (F/Os) or end (DECs) of careers. The latter will upset many (F/Os) if the company follows that path.
Flying is pretty much good with very good on board environment with both cockpit and cabin crews. Rosters are quite good, late as ever and there is a lot of chopping and changing.
EY has a great potential and will never ever go bankrupt, not in the next 50 years at least.
EY has been having "living problems" from the very start. Many call them teething and growing problems. They need people who know the (airline) stuff and are given free hand to make very important and decisive steps.
Abu Dhabi, like other Emirates in the UAE, is safe except when you are on the road driving or being driven, quiet for now and there is some stuff for leisure. Things are changing and the Dubai "horror" stories will eventually arrive there too with the projected level of development for the city and surroundings.
However, Emirates and Dubai still please me.
According to people working with EY and this Forum posts, education allowance is now suitable but the housing allowance is very short of the prices on offer for a decent apartment or a villa. Now, without any prejudice, DECENT will have very different interpretations. You may well need to stand in with a minimum of 30% of you own ca$h to get a good home.
EY is very good for either start (F/Os) or end (DECs) of careers. The latter will upset many (F/Os) if the company follows that path.
Flying is pretty much good with very good on board environment with both cockpit and cabin crews. Rosters are quite good, late as ever and there is a lot of chopping and changing.
EY has a great potential and will never ever go bankrupt, not in the next 50 years at least.
EY has been having "living problems" from the very start. Many call them teething and growing problems. They need people who know the (airline) stuff and are given free hand to make very important and decisive steps.
Abu Dhabi, like other Emirates in the UAE, is safe except when you are on the road driving or being driven, quiet for now and there is some stuff for leisure. Things are changing and the Dubai "horror" stories will eventually arrive there too with the projected level of development for the city and surroundings.
However, Emirates and Dubai still please me.
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On almost every thread about every airline in this forum you end up seeing:
You guys know your terms and conditions. You know your salary. You know your allowances. ALL BEFORE YOU SIGN A CONTRACT.
Why bother coming in the first place if all you ever bitch about is not being paid enough?
- How hard did so & so fight to improve your housing and education allowances?
- What exactly did so & so do to improve the flight deck crews working conditions at xx airline?
You guys know your terms and conditions. You know your salary. You know your allowances. ALL BEFORE YOU SIGN A CONTRACT.
Why bother coming in the first place if all you ever bitch about is not being paid enough?
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Pulling the ranks
Boys will be boys,
For once EY has a management team that for the least brings everyone hope that things will finally get better. So instead of the bickering we continue to see on this forum, I would recommend you pull the ranks and for once, just for once, truly show what your values stand for.
You can moan all you want about the kumpels but at the end of the day, the way things are looking is that sooner than later, the EY team will be the most dynamic in the region with all the financial and political support to make the outfit into a unique one.
So good luck to all of you and from the past you should know now how to treat others the way you would like to be treated.
Cheers
For once EY has a management team that for the least brings everyone hope that things will finally get better. So instead of the bickering we continue to see on this forum, I would recommend you pull the ranks and for once, just for once, truly show what your values stand for.
You can moan all you want about the kumpels but at the end of the day, the way things are looking is that sooner than later, the EY team will be the most dynamic in the region with all the financial and political support to make the outfit into a unique one.
So good luck to all of you and from the past you should know now how to treat others the way you would like to be treated.
Cheers