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Old 14th Jun 2006, 02:08   #1 (permalink)
 
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Flight training in UAE

Hi does anyone know any flight academys in the UAE as I want to train up to a commercial airline pilot, thanks.
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Old 14th Jun 2006, 16:50   #2 (permalink)
 
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There have been past threads on this topic so please search this forum for more details. However, Emirates Aviation Services in Dubai International Airport ( terminal 2 ) will probably be your best bet..
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Old 14th Jun 2006, 23:11   #3 (permalink)
 
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I have just checked out the price for a CPL course and it is very cheap at under 18,000. Does anyone know if there is a selection test carried out just like OAT and Cabair do, thanks.
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Old 15th Jun 2006, 06:09   #4 (permalink)
 
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Nope, no selection test.
They've just revceived delivery of 2 more Piper Cherokees.
Also, have you thought about where are you going to be staying if you decide to do your training at EAS in Dubai? (The cost of living in Dubai is getting ridiculously expensive, so that could hurt your pocket)
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Old 15th Jun 2006, 14:31   #5 (permalink)
 
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I dont mind but as long as the accommodation has air conditioning and a small appartment type I would be fine. Also I have just recieved an email back from the school and I asked them if I would have to convert my licence once I eventually arrive back in UK and is there good prospects of me achieving a job with an airline equally to if I did it with Cabair in the UK , they gave me this answer;

"You could enrol your name with contact info. in the enquiry register as
being waitlisted. We provide UAE GCAA License which is internationally recognised with ICAO. We dont offer any job placements"

Now unfortunately I am not too firmilliar with these jargon words and am still in the learning phase of it can someone kindly translate that message and tell me if this would be recognised here in the UK or will I have to convert my licence into a JAA, thank you in advance.
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Old 15th Jun 2006, 18:13   #6 (permalink)
 
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I am not 100% sure but I assume you would have to convert to a JAA license.
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Old 15th Jun 2006, 20:18   #7 (permalink)
 
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please can anyone provide me with more info on EAS. How good is the standard and instructors
thx
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Old 16th Jun 2006, 01:39   #8 (permalink)
 
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I went for 2 trial flights with EAS and I thought the instructor was great. They adhere to high standards and know what they're doing. Plus, exposure to class B airspace is always a plus
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Old 17th Jun 2006, 11:31   #9 (permalink)
 
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visa question

Hi i also spoke to EAS who said they dont issue visa and i require residence visa. How do i get the residence visa?
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Old 17th Jun 2006, 14:37   #10 (permalink)
 
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To get a residence visa, you would either have to:

A) to work here.
B) Own a business ( aka. have a trade license ) here
C) Own a property in Emaar ( not sure if EMAAR has started issuing residence visas to tenants yet but I think they will start soon )
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Old 27th Jun 2006, 21:53   #11 (permalink)
 
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hi there..

i am in a similar boat. I am looking to move to dubai and work towards CPL/MEIR. I have already got JAA PPL and working on JAA ATPL groundschool.

Is there a website for Emirates Aviation Services as i tired googling it and didnt work? Thanks.

RITZER82: You will need to convert your license to JAA license. If you do you multi-engine Instrument rating (MEIR) there then you would need to convert that as well on return to UK. PLUS you will need to sit 14 JAA ATPL ground exams. So fair amount of work to be done on your return. But if you could get a position outside europe then it wouldnt matter.

JAI 6638. Do you live in dubai? would really appreciate if you could shed some more light on this flying club. Things like fleet, instructor, facilities etc. Do UAE national Cadets for Emirates airline train there as well?

Cheers folks.
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 16:39   #12 (permalink)
 
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Flight Training UAE

Does anyone know of any other FTOs then Emirates Aviation Services, providing flight training in Dubai/Sharjah region? I am looking to build some hours.

Would welcome any comments if anyone has done any training/solo flying in the region. Is there any landing charges at dxb for a light single?

Sorry if this topic has been discussed before but i couldnt find anything when searched.

Cheers.
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 16:55   #13 (permalink)
 
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There's Horizon Flight Academy http://www.horizonuae.ae/index.html at Al Ain in Dubai who I hear have started fixed wing courses and CABAIR have stated a partnership with a school in Fujairah called Fujairah Aviation Center http://www.fujairah-airport.com/main/avicentre.asp.
Hope this helps.
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Old 29th Jun 2006, 11:36   #14 (permalink)
 
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Fyi, Al Ain is not in Dubai. Its a 1.5 hour drive if I'm not wrong..

To add to porridge's list, there's a flying club in umm al-quwain which has a few Cessnas and two instructors..I think its called "umm al-quwain flying club"

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Old 29th Jun 2006, 11:53   #15 (permalink)
 
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The link is: http://www.emiratesaviationservices.com/


I used to live in dxb but not anymore... With regards to Emirates aviation services, they have roughly 5-6 warrios, 3-4 archers. The planes are in great condition and a few archers had been ordered brand new when I visited them last in March... The instructor I went with was a great guy and knew what he was talking abot. He had gotten all his ratings from Toronto. The flight school has high standards so overall, I'd say its pretty good.

They currently follow the FAA ( Jeppesen syllabus ) but the guy there told me that they will be switching to the syllabus used in the UK ( JAA if i'm not wrong.. ) this summer.

I don't remember the exact hourly cost but what I do remember is it was the same as what I am charged here in the US ( which I reckon is equivalent to around Dhs 620/hr ).

The "UAE National Cadets" train at the Dubai Aviation college I think but I am not sure...

A negative in my opinoin is the wasted hobbs time due to the busy dxb international airport airspace. When I went on both my flights, we had to hold for 10 min in the air because of incoming airliners. So I imagine that could be a waste of money but not a big deal...Also, even though good experience, I'd imagine that the busy airspace would irritate me after sometime since everything the 4 landings and takeoffs that I did on the trial flight were all expedited...

In conclusion:

Pros:
1) Great instructor
2) Pricing structre is alright.
3) Good planes ( relatively new )

Cons:

1) Busy airspace leads to waste of time and money

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Old 16th Jul 2006, 04:38   #16 (permalink)
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Emirates ATPL Fujairah

Fujairah has just renamed itself as Fujairah Aviation Academy, and has tied up with Cabair of the UK, and is offering JAA ATPL course and the new GCAA (Emirates) ATPL which is totally based on the European Syllabus, in order to comply with GCAA's wish to become fully compliant with JAA in the coming years. The Academy is re-equipping with Diamond Aircraft both the Twinstar and the DA40 single, all full IFR equipped, plus Diamond FNPT II sims. They also have a dedicated ATP groundschool with European Instructors, that combined with their own 12000 foot Runway, and free Airspace makes it extremely attractive for flight training, good prices and fairly cheap cost of living, and I believe that all accomodation, food and Visas are included in their package.

Spoke to them this week and their website has yet to be changed, but probably worth a call. Having the JAA tie up with Cabair is probably a big plus, and the School is also Indian DGCA approved. their number is +97192224747
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Old 16th Jul 2006, 07:07   #17 (permalink)
 
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I find it interesting that fligth schools here want to convert to JAA and not FAA. Emirates Aviation Services ( Dubai ) is switching from FAA syllabus to JAA syllabus too.. Any idea why there is this preference?
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Old 16th Jul 2006, 09:49   #18 (permalink)
 
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Also I have just recieved an email back from the school and I asked them if I would have to convert my licence once I eventually arrive back in UK and is there good prospects of me achieving a job with an airline equally to if I did it with Cabair in the UK , they gave me this answer;

"You could enrol your name with contact info. in the enquiry register as
being waitlisted. We provide UAE GCAA License which is internationally recognised with ICAO. We dont offer any job placements"

Now unfortunately I am not too firmilliar with these jargon words and am still in the learning phase of it can someone kindly translate that message and tell me if this would be recognised here in the UK or will I have to convert my licence into a JAA, thank you in advance.

It is all meaningless jiberish meant to sound highly impressive.

Yes, UAE is an ICAO state, but so are almost all the world's countries. So you could get a licence from any one of 189 countries like Azerbaijan, Cuba, Germany, the USA or the Democratic Republic of the Congo . . . and they are all internationally recognized by ICAO because they are all ICAO states and conform to ICAO licencing standards (ICAO Annex 1 is the standard).

However, if you go to any other country you will still need to go through the licencing conversion, including if you go back to Euro-JAA land. As far as your name being listed with employers-- once again, probably won't bring you much.

jai6638, it does not surprise me at all that they are switching to the JAA standard and away from the FAA. Many parts of the world (including in areas closer to the US like Latin America) are harmonizing their regulations and standards to model the JAA ones for a number of reasons.

PM me if you want to discuss further the reasons, as I have had them explained to me.
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Old 16th Jul 2006, 11:07   #19 (permalink)
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UAE

Fujairah's new ATP is being presented as a JAA licence, so accreditation in Europe is very likely, and this will provide the edge, plus they have the weather.
I agree having an ICAO licence is no big deal, it is actually down to the course syllabus, and the standard of student they produce. If JAA is monitoring UAE and it appears that the major Airline players in the region are pushing for a high standard then things may be good there
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Old 17th Jul 2006, 10:53   #20 (permalink)
 
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Good News

That is a great news for people like me. Any idea what their price structure will be like since cabair is not the cheapest in the UK?

Also if they intend to do modular courses?
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