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Old 24th Jan 2006, 09:21   #1 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
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EK late rosters

Same old same old sh*t 24th of the month and still not a roster in sight on the Airbus. They made an excuse last month but nothing yet for this month or is this now considered the norm??
Chatting to a BA crew in longs a couple of nights ago they told me that when they do their month of reserve they are given a week free of any duty, but the rest of the month BA can use them as they please. Seems like TCAS forgot to bring the whole BA reserve system over.
Another very pissed off EK driver
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 10:21   #2 (permalink)
 
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I'm with you on that one, trying to sort things out for next month and still no roster, it's just crap!!!!!!

Another pissed off EK driver
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 11:00   #3 (permalink)
 
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With BA the best thing about the reserve month is that you have 7 days guaranteed off. If you have to be off for a certain event it is one way of ensuring this and not unpopular with various crewmembers. By the way I did not vote for this reserve system at Ek, what were the majority thinking?
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 12:33   #4 (permalink)
 
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Maybe we should have a POLL to see who actually voted for it. As TCAS said "over 60% voted overwhelming". Yeah right.
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 13:10   #5 (permalink)
 
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Still no rosters today which means they will not be out until the 25th at the earliest. How many days before does the FOM say we should have our rosters i don't have one to hand.
Anyone thinking of joining this shambolic outfit think very very carefully.
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 13:50   #6 (permalink)
 
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I didn't vote for it (for or against) as I was sure the company had made up its mind anyway and was just going through the motions of asking for a vote. Since when did we ever have say in such matters?

Btw, could someone please explain to me how this FCI about accelerated command works for the guys wanting to transition upgrade. 18 months in the company prior to being eligible,3 month training prior to final line check, 12 months experience on type prior to being considered for upgrade and then a 3 month upgrade course. That makes 36 months total..., or have I missed something? (Apologies for the off topic comment.)
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 15:19   #7 (permalink)
 
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In answer to the FOM reqirement for publishing the roster, it is@ FOM Chapter 4, page 5.

It states "they must be produced not less than 7 days before the expiry of the previous roster"

So where the hell are they then?????????
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Old 25th Jan 2006, 07:22   #8 (permalink)
 
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Where ???? Just arrogant !
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Old 25th Jan 2006, 09:05   #9 (permalink)
 
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Correct FOM Quote

Oblaaspop,
The correct quotation is "and are to be ready for publication not less than seven days before the expiry of the preceding roster". Pedantic I know but maybe they are ready just not published yet As for all the other sentiments expressed here, I agree wholeheartedly. It is ARROGANT beyond belief!
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Old 25th Jan 2006, 10:13   #10 (permalink)
 
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Semantics aside, its completely unaccecptable not to know what you are doing next week when working for a scheduled airline!!! For that there is no excuse!
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Old 25th Jan 2006, 12:19   #11 (permalink)
 
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After 5pm now - and only 7 days of January left, and still NO ROSTERS!! Pretty p1ss poor show really........
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Old 25th Jan 2006, 12:21   #12 (permalink)
 
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The printed copy is available in your box.
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Old 25th Jan 2006, 12:53   #13 (permalink)
 
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B777 only apparently..... Not for us Airbus boy's!!!!

Its like we work for a seperate airline!
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Old 25th Jan 2006, 13:28   #14 (permalink)
 
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Finally it's in the system guys. But still not acceptable!

Safe flying
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Old 25th Jan 2006, 17:11   #15 (permalink)
 
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Night Freight Europe I just published March rosters last week
But I got enough crew!
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Old 23rd Feb 2006, 08:44   #16 (permalink)
 
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Still no dam roster!

Four days to go, need to know what i'm doing next month and still no ******* roster.

Getting pissed off and fed up with this shite airline, i'm very very angry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep discovering nothing.

Last edited by Jetdriver; 23rd Feb 2006 at 09:11.
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Old 23rd Feb 2006, 08:50   #17 (permalink)
 
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Yes, it's true! No Rosters!! Nothing??!! Where are they??!! The FOM states that the rosters will be ready 7 days before the end of the current roster, why are the people concerned not held accountable?? If I screw up I am! I need to know what I am doing! My wife needs to know what I am doing, my kid needs to know!! Oh well, just three more weeks to go before I go in and say adios amigos!
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Old 24th Feb 2006, 11:10   #18 (permalink)
 
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Can I come too ??
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Old 26th Feb 2006, 05:08   #19 (permalink)
 
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I was talking to Leave planner on Wednesday to figure out what "on hold" actually means and saw the Airbus planner.

Its not pretty in there, 2 guys working 15hr days, no days off, trying to cram 31 days of work in 28 days.(Feb) He was finished but the 1 planner trying to fix the training plan that had changes 5 times in 5 days was still working on it.

Manpower issues all around boys!
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Old 24th Mar 2006, 10:33   #20 (permalink)
 
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Yet again still no ing roster for the airbus pilots in April. How are we meant to plan what little time we have off to recover form the 100 hour rosters. TCAS please get a grip and kick some ass in the rostering department.
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