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Old 25th May 2006, 14:32   #41 (permalink)
 
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Angry

Rosters may not have been as late as usual, but the salary seems to be late..

Should have been in the bank yesterday....

IS is EK or HSBC ?????
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Old 25th May 2006, 15:11   #42 (permalink)
 
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Salaries already paid. A day early as usual due to Friday being 26th.
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Old 25th May 2006, 16:58   #43 (permalink)
 
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Hoorah Muttley!
Have even heard of guys driving their Audi to work as the driver is too pharked to stay awake! (poor offspring of unwed parents have no limits on them).
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Old 25th May 2006, 20:55   #44 (permalink)
 
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Audi drivers who work 12hr shifts, 10 days straight
And ain't we the lucky ones to be driven by them, oooh I feel so privileged
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Old 27th May 2006, 04:25   #45 (permalink)
 
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Does anyone REALLY know when the rosters are supposed to be out? When are they considered late?

I was told that it is by midnight on the 25th for a 31 day month.
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Old 27th May 2006, 04:49   #46 (permalink)
 
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that's in agreement with what I've been told as well. Airbus rosters were out on the afternoon of the 24th May.
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Old 27th May 2006, 08:20   #47 (permalink)
 
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21st normal no later than 7 days prior to the end of the month.Seems now we are working on the 7 day thing. Cant recall when the last time Airbus had a roster before the deadline
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Old 27th May 2006, 10:04   #48 (permalink)
 
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The FOM says they have to be out 7 days before the start of the new roster. I would dig out a reference but now that we no longer have a paper copy it is a bit more hassle. The airbus rosters have been out right on the deadline, or after it, for about a year now.
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Old 30th May 2006, 05:46   #49 (permalink)
 
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Devil Glass's Full or Empty

I am going to be the devils advocate here.........I remember when we went in to the Training Collage to hear how the new Bidding System was going to work. One question asked was...........
"so will we then get our rosters earlier?"
The answer was no later as the system will give you close to what you bid for.................plonk................sorry fell off my chair laughing. Seriously, this is how the bidding system is supposed to work and that's the excuse they use. In truth there is nothing wrong with the bidding system or the operation here except that we DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF! Heard someone yesterday advising that the crew had been waiting on the AC over an hour for wheel chairs.
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Old 30th May 2006, 09:22   #50 (permalink)
 
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"no later as the system will give you close to what you bid for"
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Thats not what I heard at the TC. The answer I was given was:

NO...if anything the rosters would be issued later to give the company the ability to incorporate more chages. It had nothing to do with bids.
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Old 24th Jul 2006, 23:55   #51 (permalink)
 
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..........so, what part of 7 days do you not understand?????
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 08:07   #52 (permalink)
 
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The paper copy has been in our FC boxes since yesterday.

Just can't get access on the portal to start getting rid of the trips l have been given>

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Old 25th Jul 2006, 10:51   #53 (permalink)
 
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Manpower and another war on our back door step. Surely no one is surprised by having a late roster, get a grip on reality guys. AB BEY flights now DAM, plus lots of additional flights there, and summer peak leave results in delays. If you can't at least understand that, then show some patience on behalf of all the people getting the crap bombed out of them.
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 17:12   #54 (permalink)
 
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What does people getting bomb 1500 km away have to do with EK not gettng the rosters out a week before the end of the month? EK could easliy have the rosters by the 20th of the month at the latest but choose not to. Why? We all know the answer to that one.
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Old 26th Jul 2006, 03:46   #55 (permalink)
 
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Muttley Crew......7213 cabin crew both male and female.

No way can you compare the complexity of the pilots roster build with training requirements needed, to a cabin crew roster solution. FYI G2's still to be published.
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Old 26th Jul 2006, 09:27   #56 (permalink)
 
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RC, yes there is no argument that pilot rosters are more complex than IFS, however most other airlines manage this just fine.
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FYI G2's still to be published.
Well that's something to be really proud of!
While I understand you don't make the policies that continually under-resource us, you become part of the problem when you regard it as acceptable or even normal.
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Old 26th Jul 2006, 19:32   #57 (permalink)
 
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The point I was trying to make was that: There are a lot of things going on in EK and all around us that effect the way the airline operates. You can't realistically work for an airline that is expanding at this pace, goes where we go, is staffed by the staff we have, and is managed by the managers we have and expect it to run smoothly. It is not acceptable to have late rosters but it is understandable, given all of the above. We are not cabin crew and are rostered in a completely different manner to them so I fail to see the comparison. I also don't think there is an evil master plan of persecution against AB pilots (but I could be wrong). I think I have a good "GRIP" especially since the wife has gone away for summer.
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Old 25th Aug 2006, 14:51   #58 (permalink)
 
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25th of August and no roster on Evita or the Portal, are the paper copies at CBC yet ????
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Old 25th Aug 2006, 15:09   #59 (permalink)
 
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Yes, paper copies are in. Doesn't help much though unless you fancy a drive across the bridge...
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Old 25th Aug 2006, 17:03   #60 (permalink)
 
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Just to rub salt into your wounds, over in Fragrant Harbor we get our rosters on the 15th, without fail and we have Basings. Do we complain that they should be out earlier, yup!...oh yes our Cabin Crew get theirs after us. Funny that!
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