EK late rosters - Page 3

145qrh · 25th May 2006, 13:32

Rosters may not have been as late as usual, but the salary seems to be late..

Should have been in the bank yesterday....

IS is EK or HSBC ?????

brokenenglish · 25th May 2006, 13:39

Or is it you?

Salaries due on the 26th since time began and never late yet. (Check the o/time carefully though).

Uplink · 25th May 2006, 14:11

Salaries already paid. A day early as usual due to Friday being 26th.

Mack Tuck · 25th May 2006, 15:58

Hoorah Muttley!

Have even heard of guys driving their Audi to work as the driver is too pharked to stay awake! (poor offspring of unwed parents have no limits on them).

ruserious · 25th May 2006, 19:55

Quote:

Audi drivers who work 12hr shifts, 10 days straight

And ain't we the lucky ones to be driven by them, oooh I feel so privileged

upndownagain · 27th May 2006, 03:25

Does anyone REALLY know when the rosters are supposed to be out? When are they considered late?

I was told that it is by midnight on the 25th for a 31 day month.

specialrider987 · 27th May 2006, 03:49

upanddownagain

that's in agreement with what I've been told as well. Airbus rosters were out on the afternoon of the 24th May.

fatbus · 27th May 2006, 07:20

21st normal no later than 7 days prior to the end of the month.Seems now we are working on the 7 day thing. Cant recall when the last time Airbus had a roster before the deadline

BigGeordie · 27th May 2006, 09:04

The FOM says they have to be out 7 days before the start of the new roster. I would dig out a reference but now that we no longer have a paper copy it is a bit more hassle. The airbus rosters have been out right on the deadline, or after it, for about a year now.

Mr Mugabe · 30th May 2006, 04:46

I am going to be the devils advocate here.........I remember when we went in to the Training Collage to hear how the new Bidding System was going to work. One question asked was...........
"so will we then get our rosters earlier?"
The answer was no later as the system will give you close to what you bid for.................plonk................sorry fell off my chair laughing. Seriously, this is how the bidding system is supposed to work and that's the excuse they use. In truth there is nothing wrong with the bidding system or the operation here except that we DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF! Heard someone yesterday advising that the crew had been waiting on the AC over an hour for wheel chairs.
Forever Positive

upndownagain · 30th May 2006, 08:22

"no later as the system will give you close to what you bid for"
_______________________________________________________

Thats not what I heard at the TC. The answer I was given was:

NO...if anything the rosters would be issued later to give the company the ability to incorporate more chages. It had nothing to do with bids.

brokenenglish · 24th Jul 2006, 18:28

Well, lets bring this back to the top of the page for its monthly outing.

And a couple of quotes from the talking horses current newsletter.

'My team and I are committed to improving your professional life at Emirates......'

and

'......an airline pilot group abhors an informational (sic) vacuum.'

A bit more action and a bit less talk from Mr Horse would go a long way towards improving pilot/management relations and he could start by getting the rosters out on time. Failing that, publishing an explanation on the crew portal for each months rosters non-appearance might avoid the inevitable informational vacuum.

southflyer · 24th Jul 2006, 22:55

..........so, what part of 7 days do you not understand?????

brokenenglish · 25th Jul 2006, 06:17

Maybe the part that says that anytime after 0001 local on the 25th July is less than 7 days.

halas · 25th Jul 2006, 07:07

The paper copy has been in our FC boxes since yesterday.

Just can't get access on the portal to start getting rid of the trips l have been given>

halas

brokenenglish · 25th Jul 2006, 07:44

I take it all back.

Although its curious that a gentleman can distribute 1500+ hard copies to the FCs but 24 hours later theres still no cyber copy available for the 90% of the crews who havn't been and won't be going to the CBC today.

ShockWave · 25th Jul 2006, 09:51

Manpower and another war on our back door step. Surely no one is surprised by having a late roster, get a grip on reality guys. AB BEY flights now DAM, plus lots of additional flights there, and summer peak leave results in delays. If you can't at least understand that, then show some patience on behalf of all the people getting the crap bombed out of them.

brokenenglish · 25th Jul 2006, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShockWave

Surely no one is surprised by having a late roster, get a grip on reality guys.

Not surprised in the least, its the norm and has been since the company discovered that it was cheaper to be undercrewed. And that was sometime back in the 90s.

Nothing to do with wars or any other dubious management excuse. Just not enough people to do the job. So they have to rebuild the roster several times before publication with an ever increasing hours window to make it work.

I understand that last month on one of the fleets the upper limit of the window was 98 hours.

cerbus · 25th Jul 2006, 16:12

What does people getting bomb 1500 km away have to do with EK not gettng the rosters out a week before the end of the month? EK could easliy have the rosters by the 20th of the month at the latest but choose not to. Why? We all know the answer to that one.

Roster Change · 26th Jul 2006, 02:46

Muttley Crew......7213 cabin crew both male and female.

No way can you compare the complexity of the pilots roster build with training requirements needed, to a cabin crew roster solution. FYI G2's still to be published.

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