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Old 9th Dec 2008, 07:33   #1 (permalink)
 
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Blood in Urine

Hello there,

Recently i went to do the medical test and unfortunately, the doctor found blood traces in my urine dipstick test.
He advised me for further examinations and do a micro blood urine sample test at a pathology lab.
Did a three day, with 2 samples per day for analysis.
Once again, the result showed that 1 sample resulted negative, but the others were positive and have traces of blood.

Now I have to have an appointment with a urologist and check what's the problem.

I'm really worried about all this, that I could have something serious such as bladder infection, stones or even cancer. The thing is that I don't feel any pain whatsoever. Did other urine tests before and had no problems. So now I'm really confused!!

Do you recommend buying dipsticks before going to the Urologist? What type of dipsticks?

Thanks a lot for your attention....
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 08:06   #2 (permalink)
 
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Have been in your spot -don't let your imagination run away with you. I had a stone. It's inconvenient, but not the end of the world.

Buying test sticks lessens the chances of surprises at results, but there must be a good reason for the blood.

Most likely, I'm told, is a kidney stone. They'll do checks to eliminate other possibilities. If it is a stone, the last thing you want is to lose it (you'll probably know) -having the stone allows them to see what type it is, and it's positive proof of what the problem was. Drink tons (3 litres a day - more with exercise) until you see the quacks, but pee through a tea strainer to catch the stone, if it's small. I'm not joking.

Good luck.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 08:44   #3 (permalink)
 
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My brother had something similar years ago and his own was very serious he was lucky my mum is a nurse and it was easily treated with drugs and like you he felt no pain. In a couple of days the urine was back to normal.
I suggest you see a specialist as it is likely to be an infection or like the above poster said kidney stone. Dont let it get you down.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 08:53   #4 (permalink)
 
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I had this only last year. Weird sensation in my bits and feeling pretty grotty. Went to doc and the urine test showed traces of blood.

Blood test AOK and Ultasound clear - 1 x course of antibiotics and all gone.

My dad has just had bladder cancer and that started with an eruption of blood all over the bathroom from his JT - a bit like Custer's Last Stand. Straight into A&E and admission to Urology. Even then, one quick operation to remove growth and all cleared - nothing shown back up at all.

As already said, don't panic and don't let your imagination run riot. It'll probably turn out to be OK. If they were really worried, they would have had you in for tests stat.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 10:35   #5 (permalink)
 
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hey guys thanks a lot for the positive comments!! I really need it at this stage...

Hopefully all is Ok after having the appointment with the urologist and a go ahead will be issued for my medical test.

I will let you know my results ....

Thanks a lot!!
cheers
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 12:30   #6 (permalink)

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Trace of blood in the urine can come from something as innocent as jogging.
Tiny microtears from bouncing around causes some bleeding and it ends up in the urine.

Get it checked. I did. It was jogging that did it.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 12:31   #7 (permalink)
 
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Hi,
I had the exact same thing when I went for my initial class 1. Was of course worried sick-had more tests with my GP-urine, blood and an ultrasound. The urine tests showed a slight trace of blood, but nothing was actually found. I felt fine, apart from a little paranoid as I had convinced myself that it must be something serious. After the tests, my GP wrote to the CAA to tell them I had jumped through the hoops and I was issued my class 1-with much relief!
It appears to be quite common. I work at a flying school and two instructors who teach there had the same problem. So try not to stress yourself out. I know it's very worrying when you're waiting around for results. I was particularly worried about having to have an endoscopy-luckily my GP didn't think it necessary!
Good luck anyway!
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 12:35   #8 (permalink)

 
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Okay....
Not medical man but some experience....

Dipsticks...

Combur 9 made by Roche.
Blood in urine.
Could be from after sex.
After exercise.
False trace after eatiing beetroot.


Could be kidney stone.

Simple X ray of kidneys and lower abdomen will show some stones.
Ultra sound will show some stones.
CT scan will show some stones.
CT scan with dye will show 'all' stones.
All non invasive.
If stones in kidney - lithotripsy..day procedure-mostly painless.
If stone in ureter then maybe day procedure, full anaesthetic and remove.
Send for analysis.
Usually calcium.
Diet..avoid Oxylates.

Could be Prostate.

Blood test for PSA.
Nocturnal pissing habits.
Rectal examination.
Is there blood in semen?
Not necessary to drop everything and find out just now.

Could be bladder problem.

Bladder examination is like stone removal.
Day procedure.
Think it is a cystoscopy.

The blood is more worrying that it is worth but must be checked.
Also - some people have haematura as normal course of life.
Quote from letter....
40% of people have asymptomatic microscopic haematuria with no underlying cause.
So get it checked but do not worry otherwise the blood pressure will be your next problem.

Also, do not forget that if you have had clear samples before and now you have blood trace which indicates a real problem, you have probably caught the real problem in time for something to be done to cure it. I know the worry about cancer!

I hope that any person with more medical experience that reads what I have written will feel completely free to correct what I have written. I only use my own experieince and that of my friends when I write this. So I apologise now for any errors in what I write in something which is not my speciality.

Please take me back to the wine cellar and the cigar room.

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Old 9th Dec 2008, 21:16   #9 (permalink)
 
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I also had traces of blood in urine. Had it checked out via an ultrasound and given the all clear. Apparently, the dipsticks themselves can give a false positive reading due to the chemicals on them!! As others have said here, can also be due to exercise, eating certain foods...even drinking water before your medical, just so you can produce said specimen in the first place!

Try not to worry too much....it's probably nothing more than a slight infection, and in any case, you're getting it treated quickly.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 23:18   #10 (permalink)
 
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Hi Likair,

I have blood in the urine which was first discovered by the Air Force when I went for a flying scholarship medical at the age of 16. I subsequently went for a check up at my local hospital where they examined my bladder and found nothing. The next time it became an issue was when I went for an interview/medical with my University Air Squadron. They sent me to RAF Halton where I had quite extensive tests culminating in a Kidney biopsy, not the most pleasant experience however they discovered that I have a condition called Iga ( can't remember what it stands for ) but basically when my kidneys filter my blood they allow some red cells to pass through ( never been visible to the eye ) and are therefore present when I pass water. So every time my urine is tested it shows blood cells being present. The Airforce did not appear too concerned and allowed me to continue flying with the UAS. It was recommended that I have an annual check up with my local hospital every year, which I have been doing for the past 12 years and there has been no change, I have still to this day never seen any blood present when I pass water. I hold a class 1 medical and currently fly long haul. The CAA have never been unduly worried, they just require my NHS doctor to sent the annual check up results for their records. The only advice I have ever received is to limit my alcohol intake and that unless I ever suffer from high blood pressure in the future this condition should never give me cause for concern.
I hope this is of help and I have not bored you too much, my advice is that unless you have felt or seen any physical characteristics not too worry, certainly in terms of keeping your medical in both the short and long term.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 03:22   #11 (permalink)
 
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Perfectly good assessment, Hammer. Nothing significant to add. I hereby grant you a medical degree. (That's how I got mine!)

Graham MD
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 05:18   #12 (permalink)

 
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Yippeee.....
Now may I please stop this flying thing and come to work for the NHS on >100k pa?
I am able to do the same outlines for liver disease, erectile disfunction and schizophrenia. Also I have been to Bombay and can show certificate from Taj Mahal Medical School as Professor in Clinical Pyschology and Pathology although not so hot on the last part of that.
Thank you,
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 07:00   #13 (permalink)
 
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Thanks guys for the posts,


Yepp, it could be the type of food I'm eating right now, since I moved from my home country, I have to admit it, that I changed my diet....Regarding physical training, I can say that at the moment I'm not doing any .... although I did some simple gym exercise, a week before the medical test. But I think that's negligible...

Drank a lot of water before doing the micro urine test, but still, 2 out of 3 samples resulted positive ....

Anyways, to keep it on the positive note, let's hope for the good for the ultrasound or whatever the next test is at the Urologist.

Thanks for the input!!!
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 07:12   #14 (permalink)

 
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Perhaps you have been drinking Chinese Baby Milk complete with melamine additive?
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 08:27   #15 (permalink)
 
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'Had the same thing a while back. I was worried as they sent me to hospital for consultation followed by a prostate examination!
That produced nothing so 2 more trips to hospital culminating in the endoscope being shoved where nothing should go!!!
They tell you it won't hurt...it fecking did! Then they told me that if they had advised that it would it would have left. They were right.
Anyway, I saw the live pictures myself with the doctor and there was nothing. Nothing at all.
Since then get renewed each year with no dramas so I would suggest that although it can be indicative of a problem, it generally is not. They just like to make sure thats all.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 18:59   #16 (permalink)
 
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How old are you, and what is your sex?
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 19:17   #17 (permalink)
 
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Gingernut,

I'll take a 28 year old (Swedish blonde) and yes please.......

......or have I misunderstood the question?


PS. If the blood in the urine is a by product of above occupational hazard, I'll take my chances!!
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 19:25   #18 (permalink)
 
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No, 2c, it wasn't a proposition!

As every good clinician know's, the secrets in the history
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 19:28   #19 (permalink)
 
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..... but pee through a tea strainer to catch the stone, if it's small. I'm not joking.

I'm not joking either when I say that I passed a kidney stone into a milk bottle some years ago. I took the "evidence" into my doctor's surgery in Bath for her to check out, and to ask her what she thought. She held the bottle, complete with what actually looked like a vey small shrimp in it, up to a bright light and replied "I think that I'll never drink milk straight out of a bottle again"!

Jack

PS Drink lots of cranberry juice too - it's marvellous for sorting out kidney infections, which I believe it does because something in it stops the infections from adhering to the bladder wall.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 21:23   #20 (permalink)
 
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I've also had blood detected in my urine after a test. No problems for me, just repeated the test a few days later and made sure i didnt play sport or go to the gym the day before, I also drank lots of water. Result.. all clear. Dont panic its probably nothing.
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