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Old 8th Nov 2011, 17:09   #1721 (permalink)
 
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Folks,

Any more replies to this?

Any advice appreciated.
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 03:00   #1722 (permalink)


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Just a question for everyone

I currently hold a GCAA Class 1 medical. I want to convert it into a JAA medical in a few months. MY eye power is not great. Will i face problems in my JAA medicals or are the requirements for GCAA Class 1 medical the same as JAA class 1 medical?

Also how sure are u guys that EASA are changing the requirements in the next few months?

I got some info from the link below

http://easa.europa.eu/rulemaking/doc...202008-17c.pdf

turn to page 15. Are these the new limits that are required for flying?! There is no 2 dioptres requirements or what ever now?
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Old 24th Nov 2011, 02:04   #1723 (permalink)
 
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Chinese Medical and LASIK

Any of you guys that already fly there knows if LASIK is still a No No for a Chinese CAA Class 1?

I know it used to be, but heard they were aligning with JAA/FAA medical standards.

Thanks in advance
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Old 11th Dec 2011, 07:51   #1724 (permalink)
 
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EASA

Looks like the new EASA regulations have been published on the CAA website, under Medical, What's new, 25th Nov 2011.

I had a quick read through part Med and I can't see any diopter limit for initial class one at all. Also looks like no pre op limit for corrective surgery.

Maybe I've made a mistake so have a read yourselves.

What's New | Medical | Safety Regulation
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Old 11th Dec 2011, 13:43   #1725 (permalink)
 
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you're totally right

...I was wandering when somebody here in PPRuNe would notice this Europan Commission act. I red carefully the whole document and they don't specify any pre-operatory limit. They only mention "satisfactory ophthalmic evaluation".
Being 1 dioptry out of the pre-operatory limit, and having only a long term deviation Class 1 medical (CAA UK) I would open a Champagne bottle BUT I'd better to wait if they publish something explaining what's a "satisfactory ophthalmic evaluation".
I really hope it will be as it looks like.
Best wishes!
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Old 16th Dec 2011, 09:58   #1726 (permalink)
 
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Is a full eye test necessary every medical?

I have my class 2 arranged for next week and coincidentally went for an eye test this week. The optician suggested I required to have a full eye test, including colour vision test, done and the appropriate MED162 completed for submission to the CAA with my medical.

Is it now a requirement to have a full eye test done every year as part of the medical?
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Old 7th Jan 2012, 11:14   #1727 (permalink)
 
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EASA has published the AMC/GM Part-MED
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Old 7th Jan 2012, 16:25   #1728 (permalink)


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Thanks for that document fra0015,after reading it ,there seems to be no mention of astigmatism requirement in the visual requirement section, im praying they have removed it because I failed my initial class 1 with the IAA, a few months ago due to an astigmatism in my left eye of 2.5D. Am I maybe right?, or have I overlooked something?
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Old 7th Jan 2012, 17:23   #1729 (permalink)
 
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Is this EASA thing replacing the JAR/CAA medical or what's the story?


Also, when it says:
Applicants with diplopia shall be assessed as unfit.

Spectacles and contact lenses. If satisfactory visual function is achieved only with the use of correction [...]


What happens if the diplopia is removed by the use of prism contact lenses? Are you then valid?
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Old 9th Jan 2012, 18:46   #1730 (permalink)
 
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This new document that has been released seems to contradict the one released in December, because as 200KIAS mentions, there was originally no dioptre limit and you could be assessed as fit providing you could obtain 6/6 vision either corrected or uncorrected, but this new document has the original JAA limits of -6 and +5.

The new document does however state that someone outside the limits can be assessed fit by the licensing authority so I hope this means that our CAA can examine you on a case by case basis and assess you as fit. I hope I have understood this correctly and that this is in fact the case because my eyesight is -7.5 and I was issued with a deviation in July 2010 with the understanding it would be removed once I had my CPL.

The CAA just keep asking me to look at EASA’s website and won’t answer my questions surrounding this issue– I’m just hoping these new regulations don’t render me unfit
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Old 2nd Feb 2012, 13:54   #1731 (permalink)
 
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Astigmatism

Hi guys,

I have astigmatism of -3.75 and -2.75 I can be corrected with glasses but want to know if this is over some kind of a limit even though corrected to 6/6 vision. Also if I was to get l@ser eye surgery would this make me eligible if I was over a limit with just glasses. I'm in Australia so this would be directed to CASA requirements

thanks for your help in advance!
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 23:41   #1732 (permalink)
 
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Your astigmatism shouldn't be a problem. Check the regs through CASA on your error. They don't have issues with eyesight so long as you are correctable to 6/6.
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Old 6th Feb 2012, 02:05   #1733 (permalink)
 
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cheers I just wanted to find out bout the astigmatism because I am correctable to 6/6 with glasses but if astigmatism is a problem then I'd need to fork out the cash for l@ser surgery
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Old 6th Feb 2012, 03:21   #1734 (permalink)
 
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WOW!
correct me if I'm wrong but: from this document http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_asset...e/080r0201.pdf

I found this: Professional Flight Crew and ATCs
"For all professional flight crew and ATCs: 6/9, corrected if necessary, in each eye
separately. Additionally, the acuity must be 6/6 or better when tested with both eyes open."

Doesn't that meant you don't even need to be perfect vision corrected??
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Old 6th Feb 2012, 15:44   #1735 (permalink)
 
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Yes.. & this CASA requirement that you are referring to is similar to the JAA/EASA class 1 requirement.

Good luck!
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Old 7th Feb 2012, 08:21   #1736 (permalink)
 
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Im absolutely amazed. 87 pages, 1740 post on vision and people hoping to pass a pilots medical and hardly anyone has realised that EASA rules coming into force this summer will allow most to fly! I cant believe no one other then a couple have mentioned it!!!!!!!! go on the CAA’s website and read the EASA documents on medical.

I honestly cant believe there is not much being said about the news............


Incredible!

Best of luck to all, It looks like things are going to work out for most of you with regards to EASA vision requirements.
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Old 7th Feb 2012, 10:28   #1737 (permalink)
 
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Hi guys,

I think I'm finally arriving at the conclusion that, according to the EASA document of December 2011, the l@ser eye surgery pre-operative maximum prescription of -6.00 will no longer apply once EASA takes over regulation from April 2012, is this correct?

- So EASA will be effectively taking over setting visual standards from the CAA from April?
- You will be able to fly regardless as long as your CORRECTED vision is within standards?
- l@ser eye surgery WILL be permited for short sight?

I'd really appreciate some clarification, the CAA seems very murky in clearly outlining these pretty major changes to regulations and responsibility, which seem huge to me! Maybe I've got it all wrong!?

AB
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Old 7th Feb 2012, 16:44   #1738 (permalink)
 
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Yes I read it the same way. Even though it says -6 or better can be granted a medical, it also says that if you are a greater diopter then you can be referred to the authority. Its the way I read it anyway.

It loks like its the change everyone has been waiting for...........
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Old 8th Feb 2012, 10:36   #1739 (permalink)
 
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What you're reading is a very broad overview. For the finer details, you need to visit the EASA website and read the Part-Med document released on 15th December 2011
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Old 8th Feb 2012, 17:58   #1740 (permalink)
 
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Yes the EASA PART MED 15th Dec is the document you need to read. It looks like its a big change from JAR and one for the better.
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