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Old 28th Aug 2002, 07:37   #1 (permalink)
 
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Pepper spray 'discharged on BMI flight'

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Two Italian schoolgirls were arrested by police at Heathrow Airport after allegedly releasing pepper spray during a flight from Ireland.
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Old 28th Aug 2002, 09:14   #2 (permalink)
 
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Perhaps the condiments were not up to scratch!
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Old 28th Aug 2002, 10:31   #3 (permalink)
 
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and security was where when they passed through?
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Old 28th Aug 2002, 10:36   #4 (permalink)
 
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Security was not up to scratch this time. But to prevent such an incident in the future, the CAA will now issue a directive prohibiting sachets of table pepper on flights on the grounds that they may be used as offensive weapons.
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Old 28th Aug 2002, 16:35   #5 (permalink)

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According to reports, the girl was 'not very bright', and lifted the item from a friends handbag, and squirted it in her own face thinking it was water!
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Old 28th Aug 2002, 17:36   #6 (permalink)
 
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I have never seen a can of pepper spray but I assume it looks like any other aerosol container. If it went through x-ray would it not look like any other aerosol can - hairspray, deodorant, etc?
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Old 28th Aug 2002, 19:29   #7 (permalink)

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Water in an aerosol can... hmmm... not too bright!
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Old 28th Aug 2002, 22:41   #8 (permalink)
 
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Let me see if I have this right. It is now a criminal offence to spray yourself with a noxious substance ?

Perhaps this is the advent of the long-anticipated 'stupidity is a crime' doctrine. Light load factors ahead then.
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Old 28th Aug 2002, 23:16   #9 (permalink)
 
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As I understand it, pepper spray requires a much lighter container and trigger mechanism than that required for cs gas, for instance, and, as such, looks more like a lady's perfume spray when passing through x-ray machines.

At least, this is what I have been led to believe for what it is worth!

Also, cs gas is classed as an offensive weapon, whereas I believe it is quite legal to carry pepper spray on the continent.

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Old 29th Aug 2002, 04:30   #10 (permalink)
 
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RE: Pepper Spray

From an Air Canada Flightwatch Incident Review:

" The Captain found a can of pepper spray in a black cylindrical shape that looked like a flashlight. The pepper spray was accidently discharged in the flight deck during the pre-flight check. The Captain required medical attention as some had come in contact with his eyes. "

I wonder what exactly he was doing for this to be so easily discharged.
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Old 29th Aug 2002, 04:44   #11 (permalink)
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Mark D, many airlines carry Evian water aerosols in business and first class toilet amenities.
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Old 29th Aug 2002, 07:06   #12 (permalink)
 
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As this is probably headed for JB.

Flew with a guy up in Alaska that had carried a foreigner up to the headwaters of Yukyuklucky river (or some such name) who had the intent of kayaking to the Bearing Sea. After unloading, taking-off, and circling the guy, he noticed the adventurer was doing some crazy dance, waving arms and running in circles. Bush pilot then landed and discovered that the intrepid explorer had sprayed himself with “Bear Repellant” apparently not reading the instructions and thinking it was similar to bug repellant. Vacation was spent in hospital.

At a party couple years ago someone had a potato cannon, the motive force being hairspray. Arriving late I picked up the aerosol can and proceeded to vaccinate myself from the pesky mosquitoes with potato cannon motive force. And I’m sure that wasn’t the dumbest thing I did that night.

Oh, for those who don’t deal with bears, bear repellent is more concentrated than normal pepper spray and comes in much bigger containers. It shoots out 10 or 15 feet.

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Old 29th Aug 2002, 08:46   #13 (permalink)
 
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Archard - Might want to check out about the peper spray being legal or not before you go carrying it around. Maybe it's different concentrations or something but a "Bobbie" I knew told me about a year ago that pepper spray is classed as a dangerous weapon.
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Old 29th Aug 2002, 19:11   #14 (permalink)
 
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Hi Low-Pass,

I did say that I believed pepper spray was legal on the continent, the continent being the operative word, and I am not considering carrying it myself.

At least I know someone is reading my contributions!
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Old 29th Aug 2002, 19:36   #15 (permalink)
 
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Pepper spray is illegal in the UK, come to think, just about everything is illegal in the UK.
The feckin lovies even hate the idea of the police having pepper sprays, after all they might hurt some low life scumbags with them and we can't have that can we.
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Old 29th Aug 2002, 19:51   #16 (permalink)

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evian aerosols

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Well, the police in the UK carry handheld CS canisters.
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Old 30th Aug 2002, 15:18   #18 (permalink)
 
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Assault and peppery....
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Old 30th Aug 2002, 17:36   #19 (permalink)
 
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bear repellent is more concentrated than normal pepper spray and comes in much bigger containers. It shoots out 10 or 15 feet.
Gee, I would hope so ... I wouldn't want to have to wait until said attacking bear was 3-4 feet away to try it!
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Old 31st Aug 2002, 16:03   #20 (permalink)
 
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If this flight had landed in the UK I think you would find that the canister concerned would in fact be controlled under 'The Firearms Act'.
Therefore it would be classed as a firearm and not a dangerous weapon.
Makes it sound a wee bit more serious.
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