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Old 10th Aug 2017, 12:22   #61 (permalink)
 
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Again, this thread is about the Beebs focus on the issue let's not let it descend into the issue itself..
In reply to your comments, that's exactly my point. The NHS is struggling with lifestyle issues. We keep hearing about how we should pour more money into the NHS.. the money has to come from somewhere and other things will suffer. My point is that someone should stand up in parliament and state that in a modern, educated, developed society it's time people began to accept responsibility for their actions.
If someone suffers from excessive smoking, eating, alcoholism and is clearly warned that they need to change their habits (not that they should need warning and refuse then they should be given only limited treatment and go to the back of the queue.. that might wake them up.
Right, so as the self-appointed content policeman for this thread, it's OK for you to go off-topic, as in your quote I've given above, but not anyone else, is that it?

As before, I was simply responding to a previous post - it's called "debate"...........
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 12:39   #62 (permalink)
 
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My concern is that if we let it drift into the issue itself the moderators will simply shut it down. It's been done before.
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treadigraph: For the last couple of weeks, they (BBC) have been gently working toward a different frenzy. This one is the traditional "It's all the fault of Britain" that ..... The current object is the 70th anniversary of the partition of India. Despite the fact it was they who chose partition and it was they who chose to do it immediately and it was they who decided it all should be topped off with a spot of genocide, it was all the fault of we British. As for current LGBQT drive by the BBC, I am afraid they have begun to unravel 40 or 50 years of laissez faire in my personal attitude toward these people. Along with their constant parades and silly flag waving, they are really raising my hackles. I think they are really just typical of the modern "Look at me! I need attention" generation we appear to have unleashed upon the world.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 14:09   #64 (permalink)
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If you think the LGBT coverage is excessive, I don't, then wait until "Two funerals and a Coronation " hits the screens.

Those will be saturation coverage but I'll bet there won't be too many complaining on here about these events when they happen.
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Surely it's time for a BBC opt out .. don't pay don't watch.
Radio obviously would be a problem but keep that tax, er license fee ..

The BBC is one of those globally respected British icons that we pay for and everyone else uses for free , like the NHS ��
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I don't understand what you are saying. Can you explain?
No one knows exactly the level of acceptance because as this thread and virtually every other like it quite clearly proves is that those of a progressive nature simply sneer and denigrate anyone into silence if that are not 'on message'.

If a group of straight folk were discussing LGB matters and as a group they all agreed same sex relations are a perfectly natural thing thing it would bring hearty rounds of applause from our progressive collective.

But if someone in the group voiced its perfectly natural if you are LGB but I would rather chew my own arm off than suck/munch a same sex person then suddenly the aforementioned round of applause goes quiet.

It matters not that for most straight people the idea of engaging in any kind of same sex action is anything from a mild urgh to full on vomit inducing as voicing those feelings will see you rounded upon by the professionally offended.

A classic military joke.

Sir, am I allowed to call you a Cnut? No Sirman you are certainly not. Sir am I allowed to think you are a Cnut? Airman you are free to think whatever. Ok sir I think you are a Cnut.

You can think what you like but you can't say it or the offecerazi will be all over you like a tramp over discarded chips.

Hence the LGB folk out there will never actually know what folk think about them as to voice anything but 'on message' gets stifled into silence.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 14:39   #67 (permalink)
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It's amazing how you know how other folks think when you never talk about it......

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I see you're listed home is 'firmly in the real world'..
Could you please enlighten us as to which world that is ?
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Don't worry about it. In twenty years LGBTQ will be compulsory.
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If you think the LGBT coverage is excessive, I don't, then wait until "Two funerals and a Coronation " hits the screens.

Those will be saturation coverage but I'll bet there won't be too many complaining on here about these events when they happen.
Perhaps, K&C, because the proportion of the population that is 'LGBT ...' is miniscule while the great majority of the population support, love or are fascinated by the Royal Family.

Oh, and they are licence fee payers.
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Is there any real difference between this and smokers, though, or heavy drinkers, or those that partake in high risk of personal injury sports?
The difference is that the Government benefit from heavy drinkers and smokers. The HIV problem is a straight charge on Government funds with no compensating tax benefit.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 16:07   #72 (permalink)
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I intended the OP to begin a discussion as to the wisdom, or otherwise, of the BBC's saturation coverage of LGBTQ issues and the effect this may have on public opinion. It was sparked by someone I regarded as very liberal saying that he had had enough of the constant trailering of programmes, some of which I actually thought were quite good. "Man In An Orange Shirt" comes to mind.

Of course the old stagers had to take it over and turn it into a reactionary rant.
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'the old stagers had to take it over and turn it into a reactionary rant.'

Maybe you'd like to expand on that remark ?
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All the talk of AIDS etc. wasn't really part of the original spec.
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Nevertheless the open acceptance and legalization of homosexuality has had a significant negative effect financially and medically on the heterosexual community.
My son's generation cannot contemplate normal unprotected sex in the way that our generation could enjoy that privilege and phenomenal sums of money and an immense amount of highly trained people have been dedicated to curtailing the effects of this killer virus.

Surely you can understand why a large section of the heterosexual community are less than impressed with our tax funded BBC being determined to 'celebrate' what to most of us is an unmitigated disaster.
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I had a conversation about this some years ago with a doctor customer of mine who had done research into the virus. His position was that it was anal sex that was the main source of transfer and that significant amounts of that were practiced by heterosexuals. Apparently the African explosion was caused by their habit of "Dry sex", deliberately unlubricated for maximum friction. He also told me that his research indicated that oral sex carried a theoretical risk of transfer only.
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far east driver said.........."Don't worry about it. In twenty years LGBTQ will be compulsory."

Bob Hope said....... “I've just flown in from California, where they've made homosexuality legal. I thought I'd get out before they make it compulsory.”
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Perhaps, K&C, because the proportion of the population that is 'LGBT ...' is miniscule while the great majority of the population support, love or are fascinated by the Royal Family.

Oh, and they are licence fee payers.
I wasn't aware the licence fee was exclusive to heterosexuals, so thanks for that revelation.

The point I was making, was, that, this thread was about the, for some, excessive coverage by the BBC ( C4 also did a series ) of LBGT people and how they had to struggle, against years of oppression, ridicule, victimisation, stigma, criminalisation and violence, from so called "law abiding and upstanding heterosexuals ". purely because of their sexual orientation which, as I've said before, nobody can actually choose genetically.

However, when it comes to State occasions, which are one off events, the BBC has long had the capacity to ensure every minute detail is covered, usually with a great dollop of fawning adulation, plus dredging up every "Royhalty Hexpart" from wherever they hibernate between such events.

Programmes will be "rescheduled" ....Yellowstone could erupt and it would still be classed as "in other news" on the news broadcasts, and heaven knows how many days of media induced "national mourning " we will have to endure.

I'm not exactly over enthralled at the prospect that awaits us...as you may have gathered.

" Krystal n chips

I see you're listed home is 'firmly in the real world'..
Could you please enlighten us as to which world that is
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Geographically, I'm in the UK, which is part of Europe and thus European. More specifically, in Derbyshire.

Socially, I live in a multicultural world, with a contemporary and open minded approach to life, and people.

I don't like racism, extreme right wing ideologies, homophobia. hurting / killing animals for "sport", discrimination against and ridicule of women or anybody who suffers from any form of impairment.

In summary, I'm not one of the BOFSAT's who inhabit this......website.
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Socially, I live in a multicultural world, with a contemporary and open minded approach to life, and people.

I don't like racism, extreme right wing ideologies, homophobia. hurting / killing animals for "sport", discrimination against and ridicule of women or anybody who suffers from any form of impairment.

In summary, I'm not one of the BOFSAT's who inhabit this......website.
Do you ever consider the notion that others if an alternative political persuasion could also share those values?
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I had a conversation about this some years ago with a doctor customer of mine who had done research into the virus. His position was that it was anal sex that was the main source of transfer and that significant amounts of that were practiced by heterosexuals. Apparently the African explosion was caused by their habit of "Dry sex", deliberately unlubricated for maximum friction. He also told me that his research indicated that oral sex carried a theoretical risk of transfer only.
Yes we know that the Gay community have been trying to off-load responsibility for this plague since it was first identified but the fact remains that it was initially discovered and became prevalent in the gay community in San Francisco back in the 80's and is still predominantly a virus associated with homosexuals and drug addicts..

As a professional pilot when I identify a technical problem during a flight I instinctively search my systems knowledge for a solution on how to deal with it. I don't refuse to acknowledge the issue because the failure is due to equipment installed by Collins, Boeing or AirBus simply because I have shares in the company.

If we (the old stagers as you refer to us) have an issue with the BBC celebrating the legalization of homosexuality it's because we're adult and intelligent enough to identify a problem that now has impacted on all our lives and that needs to be addressed.

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