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Old 9th Aug 2017, 05:05   #41 (permalink)
 
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I can see the problems these big cruise lines bring with them
There are plans to ban them from Venice, as the locals hate the sight of them and the swarms of parsimonious visitors they bring. Corruption probably plays a part in the reluctance of the city (god)fathers taking any action to stop their visits. In a city where the tourist numbers are past saturation point, the 5% of visitors they bring is an obvious target if they want to trim numbers. Their contribution to the local economy, per head, is probably close to zero
The passengers, mostly oriental, descend on the city in vast tribes and anyone who gets in their path is battered about the head in a forest of selfie sticks.
Between them and the onslaught of African "looky looky" men, it is hard to imagine you are in an Italian city.
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charliegolf: Only having a larff! I was very close to being bilingual. As a kid in the 1950s I spent a lot of time with relatives in Llanfairfechan (I suspect something to do with my sister being in hospital for long periods with TB and Dad being away for the Korean War). How's that for predating 1974! Loads of family around Caernarfon, Pwhelli, Llanberis etc. Anyway, I grew up being able to recite Gee ceefyl bach, sospan fach etc. Happy days! (Except the weather seemed always to be on the verge of winter!)
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 08:26   #43 (permalink)
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Right, that's Wales sorted out then ( I hasten to add I like Wales, all of it, having worked, travelled and visited the country innumerable times since I was a kid ) so we can now move on to more northern reaches .....

Does the Isle of Skye have too many tourists? - BBC News

I'll bet they aren't to be seen in winter though.
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Europeans revolt against mass tourism
Do you hyperbole on a regular basis, or was this a one off?

As far as I've been able to tell, it's a very small group of hard-left youth in Spain, who've 'attacked' a bus and a couple of restaurants in Barcelona and Palma. That hardly equates to 'Europeans'; had you said 'a few catalans of the communist persuasion', you'd been much closer to the truth.


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Visit any major European city these days and you would be hard pressed to spot a local, let alone a revolting one.
You must have experienced a whole different set of major European cities than me. Or, in other words, you're a BS artist.
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Trust you appreciate the difference between local, municipal and national governments trying to regulate the behaviour of tourists, and a 'revolt' - supposedly carried out by 'Europeans'.

It's true that many places have had to introduce rules to stop drunk Brits (amongst others) from parading their tat's in the buff up and down city streets, and that Rome has had to put a stop to stupid tourists swimming in fountains. But that's still a hell of a long way from that to a 'revolt'.
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Just got back from week self catering in the Orkneys and was very suprised to see the amounty of cruise ships docked in Kirkwall. Coaches and mini buses were abundant. Didnt bother taking in some of the better known sights as they were heaving with people also the odd drone supplementing the selfie sticks now!
Based on what I saw, cruises definitely not for me.
Was nice to see the HMS Queen Elizabeth come into Scapa flow and lay a wreath at the wreck of HMS Royal Oak.
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Tourists !

You have seen nothing yet. Wait 'til the Chinese arrive,like they are doing in Thailand.
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You're a bit out of date Crippen , they are already here.:

Kidlington Chinese tourists attracted by 'quiet houses' - BBC News

The inhabitants of Kidlington may be a bit fed up, but not the traders at Bicester "village" , I suspect, where the Chinese apparently spend like drunken sailors.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 17:34   #50 (permalink)

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It's, no doubt, all due to Brexit!
In Skye (as reported today) it probably is, as patriotic #brexshitters find they can't afford to go abroad this year, wot with the price of the Euro and all that.


But not in Cambridge, where we've had far too many tourists for many years. I (with other councillors) managed to (mostly) stop spending public money on actually encouraging them (ie running the tourist office at a considerable loss) but there wasn't a lot else we could do, not (for example) having the power to levy a tourist tax.
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Bicester "village"
What is it? - we drive past it often enough but have never felt tempted to take a look.


It used to be called an "outlet centre", which we were guessing was a shop selling cheap tat that even the chav places on the high street couldn't shift.
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What is it? - we drive past it often enough but have never felt tempted to take a look.
Bicester village was originally a posh factory outlet. When it was started posh brands used to discount their unsold stock there so they could clear the High Street shops without lowering themselves by having sales.

I suspect that it has now descended into something similar to the outlet village* ** in Swindon where cheap tat is sold at ridiculously high prices by calling it Designer goods.

* The only good things about the place are the Cranes and the Guest Steam Locomotive they have in the food hall.
** They have a Hooters Express! Disappointingly it's a golf cart in drag, pulling a fake railway carriage full of bored kids and over exited grandparents.
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"Visit any major European city these days and you would be hard pressed to spot a local,"

Nonsense, I was in Italy a couple of years ago (which I had known well as a teenager) and once you get off the beaten tourist track it is still as unspoiled and hospitable and friendly as ever with nary a tourist in sight. My favourite country.

My beloved Greek islands, that's another story, but where are still a few places around.

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Old 9th Aug 2017, 19:41   #54 (permalink)

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"Visit any major European city these days and you would be hard pressed to spot a local,"

Nonsense, I was in Italy a couple of years ago (which I had known well as a teenager) and once you get off the beaten tourist track it is still as unspoiled and hospitable and friendly as ever with nary a tourist in sight.
I was in Italy yesterday, and most people we came across seemed to be Germans. But we weren't anywhere near a "major city".
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This tourist is pretty revolted at the hour long traffic queues to get into Andorra from Spain, nothing to do with enhanced security or any security for that matter as we never saw a passport being checked it's just crap road planning.

We saw even longer queues from the French side as we departed and funny old thing the French border people just waved us through so clearly this new EU 'security' malarkey is a bit selective as to where it's being employed.
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Let's see, affluent tourists are a "no-no", but young males from very dodgy locales requesting "asylum" are welcomed as refugees; given subsistence and spending money. Got it!

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Old 9th Aug 2017, 22:22   #57 (permalink)
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Let's see, affluent tourists are a "no-no", but young males from very dodgy locales requesting "asylum" are welcomed as refugees; given subsistence and spending money. Got it!

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Probably not welcomed by the "locals"
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Goggle 'chinese tourist poop in public'. I think you will all be unpleasantly surprised.
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Do you hyperbole on a regular basis, or was this a one off?

As far as I've been able to tell, it's a very small group of hard-left youth in Spain, who've 'attacked' a bus and a couple of restaurants in Barcelona and Palma. That hardly equates to 'Europeans'; had you said 'a few catalans of the communist persuasion', you'd been much closer to the truth.




You must have experienced a whole different set of major European cities than me. Or, in other words, you're a BS artist.
Tourism is getting out of hand at a few places in Norway too, Lofoten, Prekestolen, Trolltunga just to mention a few. Cruise ships in our narrow fjords, another problem.
Measures, restriction, taxation being discussed.
We'll see, in 10 to 20 years.
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#brexshitters find they can't afford to go abroad this year
Of course, some "brexshitters" understand there is a world that exists outside of the European Union. Might come as a shock to some Remainers, the way they carry on.
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