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Old 17th May 2017, 17:58   #1 (permalink)
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Press 2 to continue press 9 to opt out

I have had a couple of messages on the answerphone the last two days from a number with 12 digits (i.e. 016477296840).- the number varies with each call.
The message is as above - "Press 2 to continue press 9 to opt out"
I have just deleted the messages.
I am unable to check the numbers online (12 digits) so I assume this is a false generated number but what is the purpose of the call?
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Old 17th May 2017, 18:27   #2 (permalink)
 
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Probably a scam, where if you press 2 to continue you get connected to a premium rate number that fleeces you for a great deal of money.................
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Old 17th May 2017, 19:15   #3 (permalink)
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And if you press 9 probably the same .. .........
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Old 17th May 2017, 21:42   #4 (permalink)
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Scam, literally thousands of similar threads as the one below with slightly different numbers.

http://who-called.co.uk/Number/08439800142
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Old 17th May 2017, 22:22   #5 (permalink)
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The number shown on caller display is 12 digits so unable to google for information about similar scams.
All the other scam calls are 11 digits so it is possible to confirm by a google search information from other recipients.
There must be some system in use to indicate an untraceable 12 digit number.
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Old 18th May 2017, 01:53   #6 (permalink)
 
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Just search on the first 11 digits.
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Old 18th May 2017, 07:59   #7 (permalink)
 
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Caller ID Spoofing

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In the past, Caller ID spoofing required an advanced knowledge of telephony equipment that could be quite expensive. However, with open source software (such as Asterisk or FreeSWITCH, and almost any VoIP company), one can spoof calls with minimal costs and effort.
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Old 18th May 2017, 08:11   #8 (permalink)
 
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I wish there was a way to just stop this, without consumers having to spend money to get calls like this stopped.

The telephone network seems to be extremely flawed, in that it can be hacked and spoofed easily by anyone, and no one seems to give a damn. If I pay for a telephone service I expect it to work as intended, and not be so flawed as to unwittingly expose me to scammers. It's not even as if it's difficult to be caught out by these criminals, as some of the scams seem to misuse the network so cleverly that a consumer will have no idea they've been scammed until they get their bill.

I know of two elderly people who have had to resort to having one of those call blocking boxes fitted, which seems both an expensive and very inconvenient way to get around to problem. It also adds a delay the first time you call them, as your call is blocked until they get the message as to who is calling and manually unblock that number. I can understand why they've fitted these things though, as it seems that the nuisance and scam calls problem is getting bigger. We've been registered with the Telephone Preference Service for several years now, because we were getting lots of "silent calls". It worked for a few years, but not any more. I'd guess that we still get around two or three scam calls a week, based on the answering machine having logged a call with no message, and on the times I've bothered to do a web search on the number it's always been one of the known scam numbers.
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Old 18th May 2017, 08:14   #9 (permalink)
 
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Just received a call from:-

01295 0282744413725844!!!!

These cretins are certainly extracting the urine now!
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Old 18th May 2017, 08:48   #10 (permalink)
 
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Have been registered with the TPS for years. TPS = as useful as a chocolate fireguard.

I have set different ring-tones on our land line phone. One is for family/friends and the another is for everything else. A family/friends tone gets answered whilst the other is ignored and switches to the answerphone - if the call is important, the caller will leave a message. I report any cold call from a UK number to Ofcom.
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Old 18th May 2017, 08:49   #11 (permalink)
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I have been getting calls from a UK Mobile and my ISP technical department. The background chatter is so bad it is a wonder that they every get anyone to understand what they say, let alone act on it.

"Are you sitting at your computer?
Yes
Is it a PC or a laptop?
Yes
Can you see the C T R L key in the bottom left of your keyboard?
No
No?
No
Why not?
I don't have a keyboard
???

Call barred
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Old 18th May 2017, 09:07   #12 (permalink)
 
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Have been registered with the TPS for years. TPS = as useful as a chocolate fireguard.

I have set different ring-tones on our land line phone. One is for family/friends and the another is for everything else. A family/friends tone gets answered whilst the other is ignored and switches to the answerphone - if the call is important, the caller will leave a message. I report any cold call from a UK number to Ofcom.
A lot of people say that TPS is a waste of time, but for me, I have been registered for donkeys years and have had minimal cold calls from bona fide companies.

The only calls I get are silent ones (such as that which I mentioned above, with rogue numbers displayed) and the nice Indian guy calling from TalkTalk warning me that I've got a problem with my router and offering, very generously, to sort it out - along with clearing out my bank account at the same time!! Funny thing is, it's always TalkTalk, who are my supplier. I guess that despite there protestations some of my personal data was nicked in the hacking event a couple of years ago.

I guess if the TPS is so useless, we must be very good at not giving phone numbers to third parties, and ensuring we click the "no marketing" box on forms and not spreading our personal details across cyberspace.
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Data seems to always leak out from somewhere, no matter how careful we are. I remember watching a TV programme two or three years ago, where they had collected together a bunch of hackers and got them to compete with each other to see how quickly they could gain access to some big name retailers, without actually going so far as to break the law. There were a lot of websites that could give up enough detail to allow hackers in after just a few minutes work, which seemed pretty alarming.

Our old phone number was ex-directory and registered with the TPS, plus I rarely ever gave it out unless I had to. Despite this, over the past few months I've been getting emails with my full name and that phone number in the title (one arrived this morning and was binned). The most likely way that my name and that old number have been leaked to scammers is by an online retailer I've used that's been hacked, and either hasn't noticed, or has chosen to keep quiet about the fact that personal data has been stolen.
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I guess if the TPS is so useless, we must be very good at not giving phone numbers to third parties, and ensuring we click the "no marketing" box on forms and not spreading our personal details across cyberspace.
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The most likely way that my name and that old number have been leaked to scammers is by an online retailer I've used that's been hacked, and either hasn't noticed, or has chosen to keep quiet about the fact that personal data has been stolen.
I noticed an increase of cold-calls after I had given my number to a major high street retailer when I had a PC repaired. They had asked for my number so they could inform me when the PC was ready for collection. Sometimes, you have to make a judgement call on disclosing personal info. In this case I felt it was necessary, but I was certainly suspicious of the sudden increase in cold calls.
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A few weeks ago I received a phone call with this recorded message:

"This is the NatWest fraud team - press 9 on your keyboard to continue" (maybe not quite verbatim). I immediately smelt a rat and put the phone down.

About 4 or 5 days later I received a letter from Natwest informing me that they believed there was unauthorised activity on my account and that I should phone the number given. The letter mentioned the earlier unsuccessful attempt to contact me by phone. Such is my paranoia about scams that I still thought that it might be an elaborate fraud with cleverly printed stationery imitating the real thing. I therefore looked up Natwest's fraud number online (different from the one on the letter) and phoned that.

To my surprise the whole thing had been genuine, and my account had been hacked. They had blocked several suspect payments but a few totalling about 100 had gone through. Anyway I got my money back, they issued me with a new bank card and all returned to normal - no harm done.

What worries me is how could I have known the original call was genuine? In the old days Mr Brown, my local manager who I would know from my branch would call me, but of course thats not going to happen these days. I don't have an answer, but I'm sure I'm not the only bank customer to have reacted the way that I did.
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A few weeks ago I received a phone call with this recorded message:

"This is the NatWest fraud team - press 9 on your keyboard to continue" (maybe not quite verbatim). I immediately smelt a rat and put the phone down.

About 4 or 5 days later I received a letter from Natwest informing me that they believed there was unauthorised activity on my account and that I should phone the number given. The letter mentioned the earlier unsuccessful attempt to contact me by phone. Such is my paranoia about scams that I still thought that it might be an elaborate fraud with cleverly printed stationery imitating the real thing. I therefore looked up Natwest's fraud number online (different from the one on the letter) and phoned that.

To my surprise the whole thing had been genuine, and my account had been hacked. They had blocked several suspect payments but a few totalling about 100 had gone through. Anyway I got my money back, they issued me with a new bank card and all returned to normal - no harm done.

What worries me is how could I have known the original call was genuine? In the old days Mr Brown, my local manager who I would know from my branch would call me, but of course thats not going to happen these days. I don't have an answer, but I'm sure I'm not the only bank customer to have reacted the way that I did.
You're not alone. I never respond to any phone call or open any email purporting to come from my bank, simply because there is no way that I can quickly tell if it's genuine or not. At a guess, genuine emails from my bank are outnumbered 100 to 1 by all the scam emails, and I really can't be arsed trying to sift through them to find the one that might, possibly, be genuine, so they all get routinely binned.
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Old 19th May 2017, 08:53   #17 (permalink)
 
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Tankertrashnav

I had a similar experience with Nationwide when I received an unexpected phone call from them (it was them as it turned out) claiming there had been unusual activity on my credit card.

I didn't believe them, and refused to answer their questions, and instead asked them a security question in order that they could verify themselves to me. They refused for "security" reasons and I therefore told them I wouldn't discus it further and terminated the call.

I then called the Nationwide fraud team off another phone, using a number I took from the Nationwide website, and found out they were concerned because I had bought tyres for the car from a German account - it was actually online retailer My Tyres who are actually a German business. You'd have thought Nationwide might have been aware of that!
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