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Old 27th Apr 2017, 18:58   #61 (permalink)
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Cambridge is a city that has nurtured bicycles since they were invented.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 19:07   #62 (permalink)
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Please quote the legislation regarding this comment.
Well not new, but during the war a US Army convoy was about to depart Belfast. The convoy briefer said they were to close up and allow no one to get into the convoy.

Off they set and presently Paddy in his waggon appears and overtakes the convoy. Suddenly, as a car approaches, Paddy pulls in between two trucks.

Remembering his orders, Sam in the following truck opens up with twin Brownings and blows Paddy off the road.

Ever after it was forbidden to break in to a convoy.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 19:44   #63 (permalink)
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If the guy to my left has his cruise control on what he reckons is 70mph but you reckon is 68mph and I'm overtaking him with my cruise control set to what I reckon is 70mph but you reckon is 69mph and you want me to drop back and get out of the way so that you can overtake me 1mph faster again then sorry mate, ain't going to happen.
With you there. If I am driving at 70 I have no obligation to let you break the law and you have no right to expect me to slow down.

As for undertaking, many times I drive in an empty inside lane when the traffic in the outside lane is solid and frequently slowing down. I often find myself passing on the inside.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 20:15   #64 (permalink)
 
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That is not undertaking and is allowed - when the stream of traffic is moving at different speeds in each lane.
Undertaking is when you come up in the same lane behind another vehicle that you wish to pass and then move to the left/inside (in UK) lane to enable you to pass the other vehicle.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 20:42   #65 (permalink)

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That is not undertaking and is allowed - when the stream of traffic is moving at different speeds in each lane.
Eg, middle and right hand lanes are moving at 50mph, left hand lane is empty for at least a mile and is therefore moving at whatever speed you choose to drive down it.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 20:44   #66 (permalink)
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I wish we could just get a move on like the old days. Was it really that much more dangerous? I suppose an accident was very much more dramatic, double the speed, four times the energy and all that.

Having said all that, the worst accident I've ever seen was in a 30 limit outside Frinton Gates. The longest 20 minutes of my life with three of the four 'kids' grievously injured. There had been no other cars involved. Very strange, given one girl was trapped half way out of the torn bodywork rear of the rear door.

So, being a major highway wasn't the cause in this case, and did I read somewhere that B roads are the most dangerous? I know I was surprised it wasn't where pedestrians were mixed with traffic.

I spent so many years pushing along with the masses doing 90-something. Night time, flat out. Just slow down if I saw other lights which could be a long time away.

Now, it's no fun. Speed gong set to 5 over and perpetually worried I might transgress naughtily. If I do let the horses loose I feel the other driver's eyes on the back of my neck. Heck, in one lane the other day, a lane I've driven on for 60 years, I knew it's now or the next quarter of an hour was going to be at three miles an hour. I positioned out for a look and the other car moved left and put its brakes on. Well thanks, but not entirely necessary. I rather imagine the other driver was spuffling indignantly.

Why are there lovely cars? I know, I've asked this before, buy why. Why was there that BMW M5 sitting there tempting me with its 560 HP and gearbox filled with lightning? I soooooooo wanted that car. But confined by old age sensibleness, I can only use the 300 hp I've got on rare occasions. Why are there millions of people who just want to go from A to B in a sensible manner? Why aren't they locked into rooms where they can dribble into their porridge without a single fear? Why has two generations been born that have more lust for gang warfare than zooooooming along a real bloke's highway? Why, why, WHY, can't all the slow traffic just fcuk off!
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:24   #67 (permalink)

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We now have a generation where risk assessment is no longer allowed at a personal level. Health and safety rules everywhere, don't play outside kids or you might sniff a germ etc. By wrapping our kids in cotton wool from birth in so many ways we dilute the individual's survival instincts. It applies to driving, too. Almost every A road has a reduced speed limit and average speed cameras so new drivers never get to know the abilities of their vehicle or how to drive properly.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:27   #68 (permalink)

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Why, why, WHY, can't all the slow traffic just fcuk off!
Round my way that's the motor vehicles - got held up by them more than once today when I was capable of cycling considerably faster than them, if only they'd left a big enough gap for me to get through. A bus occupying half of the bike lane was the worst.


Of course some of the drivers might say "but I was held up by the slow cyclist in front". Fact remains, though, that if the car hadn't been there I could have overtaken the slow cyclist, instead of being held up by the slow car.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 22:03   #69 (permalink)
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Ewww, sounds like a stodge of traffic. Is that a new phrase or saying? But back in the day, I was on the A140 northbound, mindin' me own business . . . Oh, apart from the bunnies. I was trying to preserve bunnies as it was a spring morning and I like bunnies. What happened next is at the far end of tall stories, but it's true.

An A310 Tank Buster flew across the road in front of me. Gap-in-the-hedge job. What an experience. He must have got the devil in him - man after me own heart - as I would have been the only moving object for miles (apart from bunnies) and totally obvious mischief target.

The only down side was my envy. Greeeeen I was.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 23:16   #70 (permalink)
 
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The only fun you will have on the roads now is on two wheels. And not even motorbikes as the speed cameras stop,the decent ones getting out of third gear ...
Alas now the only road fun left is on scooters in town.. zipping past traffic like a cyclist put with no pedalling.l 100 mpg and when it rains you use your car.
The sporty motor days are over.
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The only fun you will have on the roads now is on two wheels. And not even motorbikes as the speed cameras stop,the decent ones getting out of third gear ...
Alas now the only road fun left is on scooters in town.. zipping past traffic like a cyclist put with no pedalling.l 100 mpg and when it rains you use your car.
The sporty motor days are over.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 23:36   #72 (permalink)
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You wanna stop all that peddling, it's making you write in stereo.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 02:51   #73 (permalink)
 
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My father loved driving and he brought me up that way. He had a series of sporty cars, and some of the cars I have owned I wish he could have seen. Nowadays however, it is hard to find anyone to share my enthusiasm for cars, and driving is gradually being reduced by specs cameras to endless lines of sheepicles where automated convoys start to make sense, ...and would be just about as fun. You could even name them something original like 'trains'.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 08:07   #74 (permalink)
 
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If successive governments had invested in decent public transport instead of privatising it all to make a fast buck, perhaps the roads would be empty enough to allow those who wish to to use their cars as they wish........
Many places the only option is the car, hence congestion and £millions spent on smart motorways etc trying to cope with it.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 19:12   #75 (permalink)
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Eg, middle and right hand lanes are moving at 50mph, left hand lane is empty for at least a mile and is therefore moving at whatever speed you choose to drive down it.
and of course waiting for the idiot who pulls in without looking.

However on day, driving at 70 on the inner lane I came upon a van with kids in the back and lots of skin, hair and tats at 50 in the middle. There was a certain amount of surprise and his passenger, also skin and tats and different hair appeared having been 'head' down if you follow.
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 02:09   #76 (permalink)


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I think of myself as a stealth speeder. My mission is to NEVER, EVER have my driving call attention to me. NO tailgating, NO weaving thru multiple lanes, in fact as few lane changes as possible. No riding the left lane (US). EVERY vehicle on the shoulder, emergency vehicle or not, sees me move to the center or left lane well before passing. Any vehicle entering a motorway, I'm planning his merge before him--slow, accelerate or change lanes. Trucks moving into my lane get a light flash to show he's clear and I aware of his lane change.

But, most of all, keep moving, it's about getting somewhere, not the median strip flower show.

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RE: Moving over
Good idea, 'cause you never know when some idiot will throw the door open and step out. Also, for the non-idiots, it's nice to move your vacuum trail over a little so you don't rock them.

RE: Any vehicle entering a motorway, I'm planning his merge before him--slow, accelerate or change lanes. Trucks moving into my lane get a light flash to show he's clear and I aware of his lane change.

I was taught this forty years ago in my high school's driver ed class.

It amazes me how many people can't figure out basic etiquette for what should be such a simple task.

Something that really pisses me off are people who are going slightly faster, and when they get RIGHT NEXT TO YOU, match your speed and plod along.

And people you pass, who speed up to match your speed, and do the same thing.

And, hell, just people in general.
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 06:47   #77 (permalink)
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And the ones who come up behind you, therefore presumably choosing to drive at a higher speed, but match your speed and stay behind.
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 06:58   #78 (permalink)
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A thought on average speed cams - they encourage you to exceed the speed limit. How so?

Consider the driver going a 2 mph below the limit. Do you fall in behind and all proceed at less than the limit? Or safely accelerate to 10 above, overtake and then drop back to one below for 10 times as long before returning to the average?

Just a thought
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 07:04   #79 (permalink)
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On the driver that speeds up when you overtake.

Many years ago, pre Satnav, and very early days for cruise control, I was cruising down the Autoroute at a constant 81 indicated up hill and down.

I would slowly overtake this car, he would then speed up and draw about half a mile ahead. Then inevitably he would slow and I would overtake. Again he would accelerate and this woulkd continue for an hour or more. He never figured it out.
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 07:38   #80 (permalink)
 
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I agree, Pontius. People who are seemingly unable to drive at a constant speed, with or without cruise control, are a mystery to me too. Their fuel consumption must be a bit on the high side. As for people who insist on sitting alongside. Why oh why do they do it? Just get past or drop behind for heavens sake!

My technique for average speed cams, particularly through roadworks stretches: Cruise control set to speed limit plus 10% plus 2. For example in a 50 zone I'll be set at 57 mph with the occasional bump up to 60 to get past a truck quickly then back to 57. I've never had a letter.
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