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Old 19th Apr 2017, 07:37   #1 (permalink)
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Drivers Video view as train strikes car abandoned on railway

Here is a copy of a frontal video showing a train striking a car that had been driven onto the Railway line near Derby and abandoned.

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Old 19th Apr 2017, 07:41   #2 (permalink)
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"An error ocurred" while trying to access the video. Bloddy helpful message!
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Old 19th Apr 2017, 07:42   #3 (permalink)
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Sorry but system will not play ball.


Try pasting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da-q...ature=youtu.be
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'That Video Does Not Exist'.
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BBC News item - car driver jailed for five years
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Looks like it will need at least a new rear window and probably a left tail light too.
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The train didn't even blink.
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Old 19th Apr 2017, 12:34   #9 (permalink)
 
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Now we know what the buffers at the front are for.
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Old 19th Apr 2017, 17:05   #10 (permalink)
 
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The car was clearly away from any level crossings.

Where did they think he entered the right-of-way ?

at Kings Cross?
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The train didn't even blink.
They are remarkably resilient things. Once you get past the fiberglass nose body fairing things get solid quickly, particularly below what is known as the Sole Bar. Basically the equivalent to the chassis top. Thats the bit all the equipment is hung on underneath and the body bolted to above.

Had cause to walk round a Class 321 commuter unit that found 6 cows wandering around the track while the train was doing about 60mph. Coupler and ancillary equipment was damaged but still in place. Betsy and friends were hamburger material. Driver was fine, if a little off beef for a while, passengers barely spilt their Costa.

That said, in East Anglia we've had a couple of train/trailer incidents, they are a bit firmer than cow and there have been injuries.

This was lucky it wasn't another Ufton Nervet, which was very, very sad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ufton_Nervet_rail_crash
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A Vauxhall? Maybe just needed a push... what a tw*t.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 02:24   #13 (permalink)
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Re the Ufton Nervet crash,when someone is at the point where they actually carry out their suicidal intentions,they may not have considered the effects of their act on innocent bystanders or emergency responders unfortunately.

In the case of deliberate vandalism,as appears to be the case with this car driven onto the tracks,I would say that his prison sentence is not long enough.
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I fully understand the suicide side of things. But you are correct, to do it as an act of vandalism you are playing with people's lives. An accident at Great Heck bought on by the driver of a car and trailer deliberately driving while tired resulted in prison for death by dangerous driving.
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I wonder what would have happened at Great Heck if the train had been the other way round, with the locomotive at the front, rather than a driving trailer.
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The loco leading would've had a cushioning effect rather than pushing and the concertina effect. There was still the derailing effect of points in both cases. Driving Van Trailers (DVTs) had more ballast added to them to help mitigate against them being significantly lighter than a loco. As with most things, once the holes in the cheese start lining up....

But it helps if people don't put cars on tracks.
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But it helps if people don't put cars on tracks
Or transformers - as at Hixon. Although I still believe that police had to bear some responsibility there.

One of my books has a photograph of a Class 47 that hit a lorry that had come through the parapet of a bridge. Smashed in the second man's side, but stayed on the track....
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 14:21   #18 (permalink)
 
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Or stations. There is a photo somewhere of a class 313 in the booking office of Walton-on-the-Naze after a brake system blip. Driver was a bit shaken but they had to close that part of the station as it was uneconomical repair. Train was patched up and re-used.
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Did anyone watch the video after the short one on TWT's link? A young driver who is caught going though the red lights at a crossing can't see what all the fuss is about. He refuses to accept a training course and elects to take the fine and three points because he doesn't think he would learn anything from the course.

And to think there are total knobs like that sharing the roads (and railways) with us!
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Must have been a very bumpy drive from the level crossing,
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