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Old 16th Apr 2017, 13:37   #1 (permalink)
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New fag packaging UK

I don't smoke but the wife does. She only smokes the mildest brand according to the info shown on 'normal' packaging, but since her brand changed to the new so-called 'plain' packaging, she has noticed her throat is getting very irritated. But the new packaging no longer shows figures for tar and nicotine content so there is no indication how 'strong' they are and nothing to stop the producers from putting in 'rougher' tobacco to cut costs.
So the new packaging is quite likely to lead to an increase in cigarette related illness, the opposite to the intended effect!!
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Old 16th Apr 2017, 14:55   #2 (permalink)

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Or she's got a throat cancer starting, as a result of smoking, the timing being coincidence. Might be worth getting checked out.
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Maybe she got some counterfeit tobacco products. The Illegal market in counterfeit products is HUGE. The more taxes on smokes the more people buy counterfeit products .Those who deal in counterfeit products do not have the same quality control and some smokes were rumoured to have asbestos filters .Which can cause throat irritation
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Buy her an electronic cigarette kit. You both will save a packet and the house won't smell either.
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Old 16th Apr 2017, 20:21   #5 (permalink)

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E cigarettes are worth a try, but they don't work for everyone. I've had a punctured lung and two bouts of pneumonia in the past. When I tried them as a precursor to giving up I found myself coughing like hell. A bit of research told me this was natural, my lungs were purging themselves of all the s**t smoking had built up.

After two months the cough was so bad I got worried given my medical history so I went to my GP. He told me to either stop altogether or go back to fags ! The vapour is steam. It was condensing in my lungs and basically drowning me ! So here I am, freezing my a**e off smoking in the rain. Ho Hum.

I would strongly recommend your other half try the stop smoking programme all GP surgeries have. They have a great success rate. Champix is a real game changer, although it didn't work for me.

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Old 16th Apr 2017, 23:13   #6 (permalink)
 
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Or she's got a throat cancer starting, as a result of smoking, the timing being coincidence. Might be worth getting checked out.
Wow, you're a real bundle of joy!

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Old 17th Apr 2017, 01:17   #7 (permalink)
 
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I don't smoke but the wife does. She only smokes the mildest brand according to the info shown on 'normal' packaging, but since her brand changed to the new so-called 'plain' packaging, she has noticed her throat is getting very irritated. But the new packaging no longer shows figures for tar and nicotine content so there is no indication how 'strong' they are and nothing to stop the producers from putting in 'rougher' tobacco to cut costs.
So the new packaging is quite likely to lead to an increase in cigarette related illness, the opposite to the intended effect!!
Australia did the same thing a number of years ago.....

ALP Minister Nicola Roxon

Long story short.....

.....after the change, I could not purchase my preferred "low" or "lite" versions any more( I changed to these in about 1985).

.....the "low nicotine" versions tend to have holes in the filter the size of very thin sewing needles.

I use a safety pin and put a few, two or three or four, holes in the filter(adjust number of holes to suit personal preference).

It has the equivalent effect of "leaning the mixture" by allowing in some "outside" air.

It may take a few days to get used to the change, but it will not be noticeable after a few days.

Please, no diatribes about the evils of smoking which I have been doing for 38 years now and not a day in hospital from it, and despite the "hysteria" propaganda photos required to be printed now on each packet, I am not suffering from any smoking related illness.

Everything in moderation.
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Old 17th Apr 2017, 03:10   #8 (permalink)
 
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Generic packaging is much easier for counterfeiters to copy as all they need is plain white, big lettering and a picture of a diseased lung.
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you're a lucky person then. I've had two close relatives die from Emphysema caused by smoking.

Watching the fear on their faces with them being too afraid to talk or move in their chair lest it cause shortness of breath and, literally, have them gasping for breath for the next 10 or 15 minutes is not something you forget.

Anything that reduces smoking has my wholehearted support.

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The heading "Fag packaging" could cause some confusion to the North American readers.
The older ones, anyway.
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I am in total agreement with layman on the subject of smoking cessation! Having been enslaved by the demon nicotine (more addictive than the alkaloids of opium, i.e. heroin) for half a century, I have paid and shall continue to pay the exorbitant and ultimate price. Cannulated oxygen, 2 liters/minute, 24/7/365. Four inhalation therapy sessions each and every day. A panoply of pulmonary medications including inhaled steroids, tiotropium bromide, and fluticasone taken with stultifying frequency. All to fight an inevitable losing battle against Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease. I'll reach the age of sixty-eight this week: in my brain I am still eighteen. My pulmonologist tells me that I have the lungs of a one-hundred-twenty-year-old.

With the pharmacological assist of varenicline, I have finally been able to put the "coffin nails" down once and for all. My senses of taste and olfaction have returned and I don't feel as a swimmer who is kept just below the water's surface gasping for a breath that never comes. That I am saving more than $200/month is an added benefit. I can squander those new-found dollars on wine, beer, women, and song. Uh Oh! Looks as if I have a few more projects before check out time...

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If you smoke and haven't tried Champix, then do so.
After 45 years and many attempts, it was a piece of cake.
Astonishingly easy to quit !
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I stopped smoking New Years Eve. (the booze also for 45 days, no way I could have stopped the fags if I was drinking alcohol).

For the following reasons..

1. I'd lost control, close to chain smoking..
2. Sick of being a social outcast, running out of places to smoke, and my best mate's 5 y.o. daughter giving me grief because I smelt of smoke all the time.
3. Had been smoking for 25 years and knew I was pushing my luck.
4. Here in Australia a pack of 25 a day is now about $25 dollars or about 15 pounds sterling. Say 120 pounds a week for ciggies. Absolute madness....

Cavuman1, hope you're doing ok. My best wishes to you...

Cheers

Octane

PS: I have resumed imbibing and have no cravings, I may well have done it. But I prefer to tell people I'm not smoking at the moment rather than saying "I've given up". The evil weed is insidious...
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Old 18th Apr 2017, 08:52   #14 (permalink)
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Or she's got a throat cancer starting, as a result of smoking, the timing being coincidence. Might be worth getting checked out.
You try and get her to go to our GP; I certainly can't.
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Old 18th Apr 2017, 08:57   #15 (permalink)
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The heading "Fag packaging" could cause some confusion to the North American readers.
The older ones, anyway.
That's their problem if they wish to use the word for a meaning nobody else in the world does, but I did try to make it easier by putting 'UK' in the title.
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So the new packaging is quite likely to lead to an increase in cigarette related illness, the opposite to the intended effect!!
"quite likely"? Based on a sample size of one?
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All fag packets should be printed up with something like:-

"Use this product and die"...or "Smoke this and it COULD KILL YOU"

Edited for G-CPTN..good thinking

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All fag packets should be printed up with something like:-

"Use this product and die"...or "Smoke this and it WILL KILL YOU"
As an ardent anti-smoker (my in-laws both succumbed to smoking-related cancer well before their three-score years plus ten) I must nevertheless point out that there were older relatives who were equally avid heavy smokers who survived well into their 90s and had no smoking-related disease.

'Almost certainly' or 'probably', but certainly not 'WILL'.
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How about smoking WILL likely kill you, or someone you love.

Addictions can be cured, stupidity is harder.
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Addictions can be cured, stupidity is harder.
Even after watching her husband's painful and drawn-out demise, M-i-L persisted with the weed.
I don't suppose it would have had much effect as she followed him quite soon.
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