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Old 28th Feb 2017, 00:16   #1 (permalink)
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White Privilege

Heard this term recently and am wondering what exactly does it mean.

Are white people "better off" just for being white?

Are there percentages of white privilege, if one is only 75% white does this mean that you have 75% privilege?
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Old 28th Feb 2017, 01:47   #2 (permalink)
 
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White Privilege is a new Loony Left Term that is supposed to suggest all White Folk are guilty of somehow oppressing all Black Folk.

How they arrive at such a notion escapes the majority of people.


The the President Obama was Black, two Attorney Generals were Black, Cabinet Secretaries have been Black, a Supreme Court Justice is Black, Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and all sorts of other Political leaders are Black, there are Black Millionaires, many famous celebrities and athletes are Black....all seems to escape their notice somehow.
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In virtually every culture around the world those with fairer skin held higher social position in society. Having a fair skin showed you weren't labouring in the fields all day, or hunting, or out in all weathers. You had other people doing all the work for you, you were somehow better than the rest.

In places like South America, or India, the paler your skin, the higher social status you are assumed to have, or are automatically accorded.

Note that if you are an albino in many cultures, all bets are off. You are more likely to be abused or shunned by society, even killed.

As Europeans spread across the planet subduing other cultures, a pale skin came to denote oppression by darker skinned races. We now have the situation where being white is automatically associated with repressive and racist behaviour. The colour of your skin automatically marks you out as a rich, xenophobic, racist, if you are white. Surprising the numbers of darker skinned people who still want to come and live in Europe though. Maybe we aren't that bad after all.
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It certainly does seem that people with darker skin often do prefer to move to places where the whiter folks have predominated.

I've yet to hear an explanation for that, beyond the obvious.
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Yes....we all know about how the White Man done invaded, raped, and pillaged all those places owned by those of the darker persuasion....omitting Ghengis Khan, and a few other notables.

How long ago was it Spain was part of the Caliphate?

I suppose those folks were White too, eh?
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Recently a friend was going on about this how being white meant you and your ancestors had never known any kind of hardship, ever.

Two things struck me, first that although born in Australia he had a 100% Irish name.

Second, that he had clearly no idea what happened to Australian POWS.

Third that Australia was originally "invaded" by white people who were forced to come here against their will.



Meanwhile if you are Albino in some parts of Africa you are hunted like an animal for your body parts.

At least some of the younger generation still have a sense of humour! How a DIY Asymmetrical Haircut Helped Me Eliminate My White Privilege
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A friend started a Facebook debate on a hipster lefty site about even though she was white, she wanted to grow her hair into dreadlocks, was this OK ? It was a wind up.

The amount of people who said that it was disrespectful as dreadlocks represented the slave trade (Rastafarians only came along in the 1930s and of course Ras Tafari/Haile Selassie himself didn't have them) was hilarious.

Debating points that ladies such as Michelle Obama and Oprah styled their hair straight was apparently proof that these ladies were still being oppressed and forced into looking "white" to be accepted in society

It got sillier when the orthodox Jews were accused of copying Rastafarians and being disrespectful.

Honestly in these days of Google, how can people be so ignorant?

IMO all the hipsters are being disrespectful by trying to look like Ned Kelly...that's how silly this all is.
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all White Folk are guilty of somehow oppressing all Black Folk

I've never owned slaves and you've never picked a bale of cotton.


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Old 28th Feb 2017, 04:50   #9 (permalink)
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White Privilege is a new Loony Left Term that is supposed to suggest all White Folk are guilty of somehow oppressing all Black Folk.

How they arrive at such a notion escapes the majority of people.


The the President Obama was Black, two Attorney Generals were Black, Cabinet Secretaries have been Black, a Supreme Court Justice is Black, Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and all sorts of other Political leaders are Black, there are Black Millionaires, many famous celebrities and athletes are Black....all seems to escape their notice somehow.
Presumably the news broadcasts in recent times were merely "Fake News" then.

The sight of Messrs Walsh, Ambrose, Marshall and Holding delivering a spherical object weighing 5.5ozs at around 90mph in your direction would also dispel the confusion as to "white privilege "

Mentioning the UK's former lucrative export trade may also cause a few heart palpitations.

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In a criminal courtroom, you are more likely to be found guilty of a crime if you are non-white and sentencing follows similar racial prejudices. In educational settings, history is more likely to be part of the broader curriculum if you are white. During encounters with law enforcement, your chances of getting arrested and convicted of a crime go up as your skin color darkens. While white and black populations smoke marijuana at comparable rates, blacks are over three times more likely to be arrested and convicted of smoking it. If you are being arrested by law enforcement, your chances of being shot dead are much higher if you are non-white - in cases of youth, the differing numbers are dramatically different.

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Debating points that ladies such as Michelle Obama and Oprah styled their hair straight was apparently proof that these ladies were still being oppressed and forced into looking "white" to be accepted in society
The need to adopt 'white' appearances, especially by black and hispanic women, was very real prior to the late 1970s in America. If you do not believe me, find yourself a black woman of a certain age and ask her. On this front, we have advanced, thankfully, yet racial stereotypes and preferences for 'white' grooming norms remain.

The above are just a few examples of what 'white privilege" is.

In the workplace and in higher education, we have attempted to balance out racial preference, with quotas and affirmative action laws, but the results have been less than promising. In too many cases, a less qualified minority will be hired or chosen over a more qualified person of majority status. These laws, while having good intentions, failed to address the issue in a meaningful way.

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Extremely poor example, SASless. Are you rewriting history?

Obama was the most defied (and vilified) president by Republicans in Congress in the modern history of America. (although with luck, Trump may surpass him) More than a few Congressmen are on record stating that they would fight any and all Obama initiatives, on the sole basis of their source, regardless of content and purpose - some of which have been in line with GOP principals and stated party platforms.

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At least some of the younger generation still have a sense of humour!
I agree that it is an amusing article but

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This is one of those subjects where no matter how many facts and statistics are produced, the noisy ones will quote an "ism" in an attempt to shut down debate. In doing so, they contribute nothing and actually compound the problem.
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Well speaking as the descent of Irish peasants who suffered under Cromwell, the Penal Laws, the potato famine and then who only achieved independence in the 1920s; and who grew up in London in the 1950/60s when signed such as those below were commonplace, I'm not quite sure when I acquired it........




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This is one of those subjects where no matter how many facts and statistics are produced, the noisy ones will quote an "ism" in an attempt to shut down debate. In doing so, they contribute nothing and actually compound the problem.
...and is also a subject where when one's username appears, you can almost predict with 100% accuracy, their stance.

A few -isms that fit the bill for words conservatives love to spew as bad, bad, news: environmentalism, feminism, liberalism, socialism, pluralism, progressivism, bleeding-heart libertarianism, and one we can all get behind in eradicating or at least limiting, terrorism.

Also note, Siti, that I avoided using a single -ism word in my earlier, informative reply.
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Yes indeed, ORAC, twas the same in America. First it was the Irish, then the Italians, then the Greeks, and Jews, and so on and so on and so on. We learnt this behavior from our English forefathers. Now many Americans (unfortunately) turn their attention to all those of Muslim faith or Mexican heritage. Who's next? The evil Canadians? (Ted Cruz)

The Führer's ideas (and fears of the alt-right, white nationalists and white supremacists) notwithstanding, Pluralism* strengthens and enriches society as has been proven, albeit imperfectly, by the grand social experiment, otherwise known as America.

*Just for you, Sitigeltfel.
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I'm a white, middle aged, heterosexual male.

According to various groups every problem with the world for the last hundred years is my fault....
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Hopefully they understand it is not your fault, personally, ORAC, but instead, the fault of the Colonial powers that created much of the ills, imbalances and ill will we face in today's world - mostly in the quest for natural resources.

Of course the same lot managed to invent and build some fairly impressive stuff. Tis a mixed bag, innit?
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I feel zero guilt for being born white. Surely having ideas, opinions and negative thoughts toward white people is racism? I didn't ask to be born white. I feel zero guilt. I feel zero guilt for the slave trade. I feel zero guilt for the British Empire. I played no part in either as I wasn't even born. How come Muslims aren't made to feel guilty for their history of slavery or their modern day crusades?

The straight, white male is enemy number one for lefties on both sides of the pond. I don't think this nonsense has spread to Aus/NZ but maybe someone could advise otherwise?

vapilot2004 It's funny isn't it. Once again history is repeating itself. The Germans are once again being told that they will be enrichened!
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