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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 09:48   #101 (permalink)
 
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Not at all - I am not a supporter of Breivik - merely informing you as to who baldy is.

I'm not sure that I follow AB's logic - indiscriminate terrorism (the van bomb was hardly selective - and I don't believe that his rampage on the island was aimed at those who he 'hated').
My apologies, sir.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 11:14   #102 (permalink)
 
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Ever heard of a National White Police Association?
Is that The Met?

I know, I know, a facetious remark but there was a time....


Anyway, who said anything about guilt. White Privilege is not about guilt, its about recognizing that in many societies skin colour tends to bias some peoples views. It has negative and positive connotations whether we like it or not.

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Basil presents a valid point of view. I too am not ashamed of my White European roots. As I stated earlier and others chimed in on it - there has been a tremendous amount of good done by those of White European and British descent. The volume of scientific advancement alone is just tremendous as is our relentless pursuit of democracy and (more recently) equality - these are among our very best virtues.

I am however, apologetic and ashamed of some fairly dark and dirty and shameful past deeds that have been done in the name of: Empire, King and Country, Oil, Christianity, Capitalism, and every loyal American's favorite triumvirate, Patriotism, Democracy, and Manifest Destiny.
Absolutely spot on.


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Normal people admit that there are problems with violent right wing terrorists. Lefties cover up and quietly condone widespread left wing violence. Huge difference.
Really? 'Normal' people? Who's that then, those that agree with you?

I don't remember the deeds of left wing terrorist organisations getting covered up in the past.

Red Army Faction (Baader-Meinhof Gang), Red Brigade, Shinig Path, etc.

I do remember them being reviled (rightly so) by just about everyone.


Please stop giving Katie Hopkins oxygen? A vile individual. The Daily Heil will publish anything she says. Nuff said.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 11:57   #103 (permalink)
 
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Really? 'Normal' people? Who's that then, those that agree with you?

Please stop giving Katie Hopkins oxygen? A vile individual. The Daily Heil will publish anything she says. Nuff said


Hypocritical?

With respect, you are perfectly entitled your opinion on K Hopkins. There are many hundreds of thousands which agree with her. Not on every point she makes. She certainly doesn't try to shut down those that disagree with her.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 12:11   #104 (permalink)
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" There are many hundreds of thousands which agree with her. Not on every point she makes. She certainly doesn't try to shut down those that disagree with her

It's very disturbing to be aware that there are so many bigoted and vile minds like her in the UK really.

May I ask if you concur with her "sentiments" at all please ?
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 12:15   #105 (permalink)
 
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I'm not trying to shut her down, she is as entitled to her opinion as anyone else.

However, her oxygen is publicity. She says controversial things to get attention and publicity, its a game. My point is that quoting her and The Daily Heil is not exactly clever. She is known to lie repeatedly (as does the Heil) and is therefore an unreliable source of information
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 14:19   #106 (permalink)
 
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KnC,

She wrote, in my opinion, an excellent piece on the death of Tara Palmer Tompkinson. There are other pieces where, once I have seen the subject, I will not read. I do not agree with the way she goes about her business, but it works for her and I don't subscribe to calling her names because I don't agree.

Turin,

Please show me a newspaper or news outlet that does not lie? Show me a politician that always tells the truth? Please read my response above. Her detractors, and there are many, really do overstep the mark on threats and name calling. If you don't agree, don't read her tweets or articles. Simples.
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Her detractors, and there are many, really do overstep the mark on threats and name calling.
It's still an active court case, but (if proved) accusing someone you disagree with of condoning desecration of the Cenotaph, when it has been pointed out that that person condones nothing of the sort, and in fact is supportive of a number of relatives who are/have been in the forces perhaps oversteps the mark?

Arguing the case for what she stands for is one thing, even if you wholeheartedly disagree with her, but Hopkins rarely does that - she just spews hatred and bile towards anyone who she perceives as holding different points of view to herself.

Her mantra, with apologies to Dr Seuss seems to be 'Look at me, look at me, look at me NOW'.
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Indeed. Instead of commenting on the issues Katie Hopkins raises, attack Katie Hopkins instead because thsts SO much more constructive.

I suppose the Sweden situation is alt-right/fake news/Russian hackers?

The left like to think they're so much better in every sense. Even their own big mouthed liar and attention seeking female. Laurie Penny anyone?
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 16:37   #109 (permalink)
 
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Some students have attempted to start a European Club. This has been attacked as racist, white supremacy rearing its ugly head.

But when the protestors are asked what is the difference between the Asian Club, and the Maori club at the same university all we get is "that is different".
Those clubs, by defining their membership by race, and denying that privilege to others, have proved themselves beyond doubt to be racist.

Q.E.D.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 16:41   #110 (permalink)
 
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Reverse racism doesn't exist we keep getting told. Is whites just need to suck it up.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 18:39   #111 (permalink)
 
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Are you suggesting that all Muslims should feel guilty for the doings of Daesh?
This applies to any particular racial group but if you heard, for example, there had been particularly nasty or fatal attacks by purple lizards with pink spots, you would naturally be wary of, and warn your family to be very wary of ALL purple lizards with pink spots - but does it mean that automatically, purple lizards with pink spots are killers? It is in our nature to learn by experience and encounter.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 19:55   #112 (permalink)
 
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Let's get real here:

If a bunch of white Americans suddenly started randomly murdering non-white Americans in great numbers, we white Americans would no doubt stand up and say "No, this isn't right", and even though we could not as individuals stop it, we would condemn it and demand that our leaders do something about it.

If a bunch of white British suddenly headed off and started invading, murdering, and enslaving some group (say, the Irish!), there would be a huge backlash of white British condemning it and demanding that something be done to stop it.

I know that our resident bleeders here will deny this, but we all know it is true.

No one expects Muslims individually to control their radicals, but we who purport to be civilized have every right to expect that as a group/culture/ethnicity/whathaveyou, the Islamic world needs to stand up and root out their destructive element.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 20:20   #113 (permalink)
 
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I don't have the answer but it sure isn't about the much used generalisation: "race" ugh:
Race is the main excuse the bleedin hearts use when they run out of arguments and don't know what to reply.
Just another proof of their hypocrisy, selective morality.
In fact they use it only towards whites, not towards blacks or non-whites.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 20:36   #114 (permalink)
 
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The straight, white male is enemy number one for lefties on both sides of the pond. I don't think this nonsense has spread to Aus/NZ but maybe someone could advise otherwise?

Don't worry Hearty, if you are white (and male) in NZ you are to blame for the ills of the nation.
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Old 2nd Mar 2017, 21:05   #115 (permalink)
 
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obgraham

in Australia, police have acknowledged the critical role of intelligence from within the Muslim community in their ability to disrupt and arrest potential terrorist suspects. Perhaps at least as useful than being 'noisy'?

tarbaby

perhaps the attitude goes both ways? A 'brown' gentleman of mixed south Asian / Filipino descent (born and raised in NZ) was told, when he said he wasn't Maori, "Good. So you don't have a chip on both shoulders and a sense of entitlement".
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In Australia, "White Privilege" also allows its possessors to grow some of the nastiest and most lethal skin cancers known to medical science.
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Old 3rd Mar 2017, 07:18   #117 (permalink)
 
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Clubs limiting membership by Race.....are racist? Yes We all agree....until it comes to groups like the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) or the Black Panthers, or....you get my drift!

Now when that Golf Club down in Augusta, Georgia refused to allow Blacks or Women to join......they were both Racist and Sexist!
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Blame it all on that pesky damned Civil Rights Act 1964. Typical Democrat legislation
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Old 3rd Mar 2017, 08:48   #119 (permalink)
 
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BBC - Asian Network - Home

Imagine the howls of 'racist' if someone suggested a 'European Network' radio channel on the BBC (let's not do what so many politicians do and confuse 'Europe' with that political entity, the EU!). On those grounds the Asian Network must be racist. Back to the topic of the thread, the 'whites' (whoever they are) are underprivileged in this case.
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Old 3rd Mar 2017, 10:25   #120 (permalink)
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" Now when that Golf Club down in Augusta, Georgia refused to allow Blacks or Women to join......they were both Racist and Sexist

Not difficult to understand why, with those superb deductive and reasoning powers, you were indeed a "Special Agent "

If it's any consolation to you, there's still " a wee bit of argy bargy" to quote the immortal words of the late Bill McClaren...( rugby commentator for those across the pond, other nations may well have heard of him ) with regard to membership and access of a "well known Scottish Golf Club "....not far from Edinburg and the Firth of Forth.....unless it's all been amicably resolved and the ladies have been granted, what's that term again?.....equality.
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