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Old 17th Feb 2017, 13:07   #9041 (permalink)
 
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Amazing how after the biggest Christmas sales wise for an awful long time that merely weeks later the story has changed and whudya know, the Guardian are the first to jump on it.

Despite savage racism and xenophobia rampant throughout these beautiful isles, post EU referendum still managed:

The ONS said overseas residents made 9.2m visits to the UK in the final three months of 2016, up 6% on a year earlier. Visits from North America increased by 15% and visits from residents of EU countries increased by 8%.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 14:53   #9042 (permalink)
 
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The more he speaks against Brexit the more I am convinced it is the right path for the UK.
Indeed! It's a bit like his decision, "in principle", to join the Euro. Tony Blair does what's best for Tony Blair, not what's best for the UK as a whole.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 16:18   #9043 (permalink)
 
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The sister paper to the Guardian reported:

?If anyone knows about misleading a nation into a dangerous course of action, it?s me? explains Tony Blair
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 17:57   #9044 (permalink)
 
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I've seen quite a few times here the allegation that the majority of the British electorate voted for Brexit.

Not quite true.

Of the 46.5m voters 17.4 million voted leave, 16.1 million voted stay and 13 million abstained.

So 37.4% voted leave, 34.6% voted stay and 28% abstained.

Hardly a majority.

Please stop repeating the false news, or alternative fact, that the majority of British voters are in favour of Brexit.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 18:07   #9045 (permalink)
 
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Please stop repeating the false news, or alternative fact, that the majority of British voters are in favour of Brexit.
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Good enough for a referendom.
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So 37.4% voted leave, 34.6% voted stay and 28% abstained
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 18:16   #9046 (permalink)
 
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Blair doesn't give a hoot about the UK, his overrriding ambition is to be El Presidente of the EU. Something that is unlikely to happen if his home country walks away from it.

With him, it is always the same, follow the money.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 18:19   #9047 (permalink)
 
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Bliar quote:

"The British public have been mis-informed over Brexit."

That's phuquing rich coming from you, who repeatedly lied, not mis-informed, the British public AND parliament, on multiple occasions, about going to war in Iraq in 2003. You hung David Kelly out to dry......you slimey b4st4rd!

Bliar is toxic.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:07   #9048 (permalink)
 
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That nice Mr Blair seems to be using the tactics of Leon Trotsky - another politician who thought he should be the permanent great leader......
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:07   #9049 (permalink)
 
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I was wondering after over 9000 posts if anyone on here has actually changed their minds about the way they voted in the referendum?
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:09   #9050 (permalink)
 
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Not me Squire! I voted to leave and I've seen nothing that would compel me to change my mind.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:26   #9051 (permalink)
 
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Nope, if anything I am more committed than before.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:28   #9052 (permalink)
 
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I was wondering after over 9000 posts if anyone on here has actually changed their minds about the way they voted in the referendum?
The kind of highly opinionated people that populate this particular thread are the least likely to change their minds - they feel passionately about the subject and where they stand, whether it be remainers or leavers.

The original title (Brexit - pros. and cons. or similar) was an excellent idea; sadly the pros. and cons. have never been discussed, just "fog-horn diplomacy" and allegations flying from both sides - a bit like parliament, and we know how much that institution ever really achieves.

Me - I'm a remainer and it will take proof that leaving was a good idea, and that will only be forthcoming long after TM has left office. my gut tells me otherwise.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:42   #9053 (permalink)
 
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The sooner we are out of this gravy-train debacle....the better.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:49   #9054 (permalink)
 
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yakker.

Not me. Voted out. And as Rob Courtney says....even more committed. The whole EU thing is corrupt.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 20:08   #9055 (permalink)
 
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Good enough for a referendom.
Of those 48.1 and 51.9 %
Nigel Farage stated when he thought he was going to loose that 48/52 would not be a spread he would consider as a mandate
With such a spread he would demand another referendum

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So the EU are corrupt ? I would say our government are equally corrupt
There are very few honest politicians around
You really think May is interested in democracy ? The woman who has to fight two court battles to keep Parliament out of her vision of destructive brexit you must be joking ?
May is as false and corrupt as any

The woman who supported remain! Wrote articles promoting the single market up to the referendum then threw that away with the chance of being PM
I was no supporter of Blair but she is no better maybe worse only time will tell
If they are your hero and fight your cause they can do no wrong ?

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Old 17th Feb 2017, 20:24   #9056 (permalink)
 
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Why oh why do people keep going on about who voted what and percentages of this part of the country/village/town voted for what and who said what, it is old stale worthless crap information that will not change the result, or get you another go to try and get you your result, or what is going to happen next, which is what was voted for and that was leave.

In answer to the question would I or my family and friends change their vote, not a chance and the more rubbish spouted on here from some remain voters and those that did not bother to vote, and the Blair's, Osbourne's and all those others in the Brussels's crowd who keep trying to brow beat people into believing exit was the wrong decision, the more intransigent it makes us knowing it must of been the correct decision if these people don't like it, because they only want what is best for them, not for everyone who voted like some try and claim they are concerned for, or the country as a whole.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 20:31   #9057 (permalink)
 
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Theresa May must get second Brexit Act through Parliament after EU negotiations, lawyers conclude - The Independent
https://apple.news/AK9k2N7VbQt6DtyjE7o4J4w

More trouble brewing
Better hope all is great ahead and the peoples will is still there if not as this ruling could lead to another referendum if it's not looking great

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Old 17th Feb 2017, 20:46   #9058 (permalink)
 
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Really Pace, are you and others that are so desperate to stay with the EU that you are now pinning your hopes on the next maybe/possibly/ could be.

What if we get to that stage and your side wins, and even if the Brussels's crowd actually accept us crawling back to the fold, under those circumstances are you really so cock o hoop at that possibility that you cannot see how badly this country will be treated to be accepted back and what we will have to sacrifice to be let back in with our tails between our legs, unbelievable, no in fact I retract that, as going by what has been written to date it is totally believable.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 20:52   #9059 (permalink)
 
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Only a couple of weeks till March and then we can get this party started. Once Mrs May enacts Art 50 we will officially be orf and it will not be coming a day to soon.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 20:52   #9060 (permalink)
 
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I would not be happy to jump back in as I am constantly reminded I did not vote remain or leave
I want us with unfettered access to the single market and think we were sold a dud on EU immigration
If we can have unfettered access to the single market and put the market as our red line I support brexit
I do not like May as you know because she has represented the wishes of a small section of the UK and ignored the rest
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