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Old 17th Feb 2017, 11:55   #9041 (permalink)
 
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Talking Head on Sky News just now - "Tony Blair is a savvy politician"

No. No he isn't. We're not stupid enough to have elected him again.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 11:58   #9042 (permalink)
 
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He might get a hearing among the media metrollectuals. Nowhere else.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 12:03   #9043 (permalink)
 
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Bliar has to be one of the most hated people on the planet. An odious criminal who should be doing time. WTF is he doing poking his nose into the political affairs of this country? He's had his turn, & made a right "see-you-next-Tuesday" of it!

We had a referendum in June, & the electorate have spoken. Keep your ugly mug out of it!

Since June 2016, Blair has called for a second referendum, a decision through parliament or a general election to decide finally if Britain should leave the EU. Blair stated:

I'm convinced that it's going to be very, very tough. We have to understand we are not going to be conducting these negotiations with a group of European businessmen who might well decide that they want maximum access to the UK.
The people we are going to be conducting these negotiations with are the political leaders of the European Union and their parliaments...I'm arguing we should keep our options open.


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Fixed that for you Tony.

I'm convinced that it's going to be very, very tough. The people we are going to be conducting these negotiations with are the political leaders of the European Union and their parliaments, who will be advised by very influential European businessmen in the banking, business & manufacturing sectors.

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Old 17th Feb 2017, 12:08   #9044 (permalink)
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Talking Head on Sky News just now - "Tony Blair is a savvy politician"

No. No he isn't. We're not stupid enough to have elected him again.
But he thinks we are!

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As a convinced remainer I feel almost ashamed to be in the same camp as that lying hypocrite.
Brexit has made for some strange bedfellows for all of us, either side of the hedge...
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 12:33   #9045 (permalink)
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Alas, the following statement was posted on the wrong thread.....hence, without any deference of course, as it has a relevance on here, ever helpful I have transferred it.....

" What "facts", Gertie, in the context of Brexit? About the future all we have is opinion. One fact is that since the referendum the UK's economy is forging ahead. Long may it continue to do so"

To be confused once is understandable, twice however......

https://www.theguardian.com/business...t-retail-sales
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 13:07   #9046 (permalink)
 
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Amazing how after the biggest Christmas sales wise for an awful long time that merely weeks later the story has changed and whudya know, the Guardian are the first to jump on it.

Despite savage racism and xenophobia rampant throughout these beautiful isles, post EU referendum still managed:

The ONS said overseas residents made 9.2m visits to the UK in the final three months of 2016, up 6% on a year earlier. Visits from North America increased by 15% and visits from residents of EU countries increased by 8%.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 14:53   #9047 (permalink)
 
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The more he speaks against Brexit the more I am convinced it is the right path for the UK.
Indeed! It's a bit like his decision, "in principle", to join the Euro. Tony Blair does what's best for Tony Blair, not what's best for the UK as a whole.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 16:18   #9048 (permalink)
 
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The sister paper to the Guardian reported:

?If anyone knows about misleading a nation into a dangerous course of action, it?s me? explains Tony Blair
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 17:57   #9049 (permalink)
 
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I've seen quite a few times here the allegation that the majority of the British electorate voted for Brexit.

Not quite true.

Of the 46.5m voters 17.4 million voted leave, 16.1 million voted stay and 13 million abstained.

So 37.4% voted leave, 34.6% voted stay and 28% abstained.

Hardly a majority.

Please stop repeating the false news, or alternative fact, that the majority of British voters are in favour of Brexit.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 18:07   #9050 (permalink)
 
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Please stop repeating the false news, or alternative fact, that the majority of British voters are in favour of Brexit.
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Good enough for a referendom.
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So 37.4% voted leave, 34.6% voted stay and 28% abstained
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 18:16   #9051 (permalink)
 
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Blair doesn't give a hoot about the UK, his overrriding ambition is to be El Presidente of the EU. Something that is unlikely to happen if his home country walks away from it.

With him, it is always the same, follow the money.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 18:19   #9052 (permalink)
 
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Bliar quote:

"The British public have been mis-informed over Brexit."

That's phuquing rich coming from you, who repeatedly lied, not mis-informed, the British public AND parliament, on multiple occasions, about going to war in Iraq in 2003. You hung David Kelly out to dry......you slimey b4st4rd!

Bliar is toxic.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:07   #9053 (permalink)
 
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That nice Mr Blair seems to be using the tactics of Leon Trotsky - another politician who thought he should be the permanent great leader......
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:07   #9054 (permalink)
 
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I was wondering after over 9000 posts if anyone on here has actually changed their minds about the way they voted in the referendum?
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:09   #9055 (permalink)
 
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Not me Squire! I voted to leave and I've seen nothing that would compel me to change my mind.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:26   #9056 (permalink)
 
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Nope, if anything I am more committed than before.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:28   #9057 (permalink)
 
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I was wondering after over 9000 posts if anyone on here has actually changed their minds about the way they voted in the referendum?
The kind of highly opinionated people that populate this particular thread are the least likely to change their minds - they feel passionately about the subject and where they stand, whether it be remainers or leavers.

The original title (Brexit - pros. and cons. or similar) was an excellent idea; sadly the pros. and cons. have never been discussed, just "fog-horn diplomacy" and allegations flying from both sides - a bit like parliament, and we know how much that institution ever really achieves.

Me - I'm a remainer and it will take proof that leaving was a good idea, and that will only be forthcoming long after TM has left office. my gut tells me otherwise.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:42   #9058 (permalink)
 
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The sooner we are out of this gravy-train debacle....the better.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 19:49   #9059 (permalink)
 
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yakker.

Not me. Voted out. And as Rob Courtney says....even more committed. The whole EU thing is corrupt.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 20:08   #9060 (permalink)
 
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Good enough for a referendom.
Of those 48.1 and 51.9 %
Nigel Farage stated when he thought he was going to loose that 48/52 would not be a spread he would consider as a mandate
With such a spread he would demand another referendum

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So the EU are corrupt ? I would say our government are equally corrupt
There are very few honest politicians around
You really think May is interested in democracy ? The woman who has to fight two court battles to keep Parliament out of her vision of destructive brexit you must be joking ?
May is as false and corrupt as any

The woman who supported remain! Wrote articles promoting the single market up to the referendum then threw that away with the chance of being PM
I was no supporter of Blair but she is no better maybe worse only time will tell
If they are your hero and fight your cause they can do no wrong ?

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