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Old 5th Jan 2016, 22:09   #101 (permalink)
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Cheers. I have been in France, taking holidays from Asia, unfortunately to witness horror in Paris. Now those news from Germany... I am deeply sad, shocked and ashamed to leave this mess to the coming generations. Well, our leaders should be ashamed, they were wrong.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 22:13   #102 (permalink)
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Walking five paces behind the man?

That was the way of the local native walk in Viet Nam until the paths through the jungles were mined. Then the men, rather sensibly from their point of view, made the women and children walk ahead.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 22:14   #103 (permalink)

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jindabyne: Brilliant. Your 'naive ... unintelligent ... demented ... stupid' woman has been appointed three times to the Chancellorship of Europe's most powerful nation. Through democratic processes each time.

That tells me far more about you than it does about her.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 22:23   #104 (permalink)

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Get a grip Rail Engineer.

Nowhere, ever, did I call you a racist.
Nowhere, ever, did I defend representatives of 'these groups' or condone in any way racist (yes, racist) violence against women.

I merely pointed out that when you spin the racist/rapist coin in the air, it can come down on either side. You were the one who started the name-calling.

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Old 5th Jan 2016, 22:46   #105 (permalink)
 
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jindabyne: Brilliant. Your 'naive ... unintelligent ... demented ... stupid' woman has been appointed three times to the Chancellorship of Europe's most powerful nation. Through democratic processes each time.

That tells me far more about you than it does about her.
Once an ossie, alway's an ossie.

They have managed to drag the former W Germany down to their "level" the resentment from the westies was already simmering now decades old, held in check only by pride in their country and "people".
It was bad enough with the Turkish and their preferential treatment, but what has happenned will eventually split Germany society apart, which is a terrible thing as that unity is what has supported them through, what, 70 years of recovery.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 22:53   #106 (permalink)

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Oh, how strange. I could have sworn she was born in Hamburg which, last I heard, was in the Western bit.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 23:14   #107 (permalink)
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Those events in Germany are unfortunately, only a starter. It won't improve. And no need to be shy anymore, that's way too late. In France the media hided (and still do) many informations concerning immigration and it's tremendous consequences on our society. But internet exists. People are only more pissed of by the never ending covering up. I believed in EU. This migrant crisis is the end of it. It is well too late to deny it.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 23:16   #108 (permalink)
 
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"Mutti" was born in Hamburg, she was only a couple of weeks old when her family moved to East Germany. So it's fair to say she's an "Ossi".
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 23:22   #109 (permalink)
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Wherever she was born, she was wrong. Now the only way to stop this madness is to close the boundaries, what would be the end of shenghen. She started something she won't be able to stop without a major crisis. This woman has a phd, I thought she was smarter than that.
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Reckon she knows exactly what she is doing. The German leaders have been trying to rearrange the rest of Europe with wars, money and now this. I reckon the goal is to cause total chaos and division among the people so that they can clamp down and turn Europe into a homogenous Orwellian wilderness.

Political Correctness is achieving the same as was intended with The Ministry of Truth.
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Clare Prop, I tend to agree with that.

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Old 6th Jan 2016, 03:59   #112 (permalink)
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Very true Clare.
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Merkel should be charged with Treason.
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Old 6th Jan 2016, 09:04   #114 (permalink)
 
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Now the only way to stop this madness is to close the boundaries, what would be the end of shenghen.
I realise Iím poking a hornets nest with a stick here, but isnít Schengen considered to be one of the most sacred and inviolable of the EUís achievements as it becomes ever more closely integrated?

P.S. Good to have you back.
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Old 6th Jan 2016, 09:04   #115 (permalink)
 
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It is being reported the 'a suspicious object' has been found in the office of Frau Merkel.

Maybe it's one of the million refugees she let in coming to say thanks
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Old 6th Jan 2016, 10:03   #116 (permalink)
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Exactly. Schengen is the final project (one country: US of Europe). I don't know why they do everything to destroy what they created. I am disappointed, sad, and more than everything I have to deal with the fact I have been fooled and betrayed.
I think Clare sum it up quite well if we refer to our middle school time readings: ministry of truth equals political correctness.
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Old 6th Jan 2016, 11:13   #117 (permalink)
 
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Posted ten years ago on JB.

Twas Orwell that predicted it all Mr Tin,doublethink newspeak and thoughtcrime.
Political Correctness = DOUBLEPLUS UNGOOD.
Nobody listened
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Where are all the screeching feminist harridans? For some reason they are strangely silent while the sisters are being violated. Could it be that they are willing to cut some slack for different cultures? A century of campaigning for equal treatment gone in an instant on the back of political correctness! Shameful.
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Old 6th Jan 2016, 14:13   #119 (permalink)
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"Where are all the screeching feminist harridans"
I wonder too. During the weekend, Paris suburb, no woman take the train alone anymore. Not a problem at all for the feminists apparently. Because if you are a feminist, you are pro mass immigration too, you have to take the whole package. It is called ideology.
In France if a woman gets raped by a migrant, and if as a reaction you say it could have happened with a local Caucasian pervert anyway, it makes you a lovely smart open minded person. Even though the rate of rape increases for the first time since the second WW, it doesn't matter, everything is fine in our perfect world.
I was EU friendly, I was even pro (not mass though)-immigration, but I really wonder what is good or bad nowadays. Being good, having a good heart, could be just stupid when it comes to politics. Like in the movie "it's a god damn jungle out there".
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Few weeks ago I discussed the immigration issues with a friend who is single mother and sociologist and voted for the communists at the large general election. She is much pro immigration and respect of minorities even if they cause trouble (read gypsies).
I pointed out that me as a white male with very loose religious affiliation I would have little problems when the muslim immigrants start impose their way (OK I would have a problem with draft beer and pork meat but I hope it is not immediate issue). However she as a single mother with often a deep cleavage away from her paternal house she would be among the first to have problems. And in general all those leftist, feminist welcoming the immigrants will be the first to find their rights curtailed. And she did not want to admit it.
It seems I am getting prove right again much as I was insisting on closing the door in late summer 2015.
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