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Old 17th Dec 2015, 00:04   #21 (permalink)
 
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S&C,
That's what's had me scratching my head from the outset.

Yes, she's obviously got a plan - but just what it can be is sorely taxing my tiny brain.
Can anybody ease my pain?
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 00:57   #22 (permalink)
 
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American Indians?


Some I'd say were victims of immigration and we have dearly lost as they became extinct or scattered to the winds.


Others, and not in small numbers, were as brutal and evil as their immigrant adversaries and their loss to the world shouldn't be mourned.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 02:32   #23 (permalink)
 
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Stanwell.
Perhaps she will give them all EU passports then they can freely leave for the more lucrative EU countries
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 03:31   #24 (permalink)
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Stanwell, I have been trying to work out what her plan is, since this started. I can't work out what it is, so your not alone.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 04:16   #25 (permalink)
 
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Trossie...it's worth reading the two comments after the report.Could be that some,if not many,do not agree with the original complaints,which is a bit of a worry.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 07:03   #26 (permalink)
 
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...which is a bit of a worry.
There are always people with their heads in the sand.

parabellum, that ditty is excellent!
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 08:51   #27 (permalink)
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Seconded!
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 09:15   #28 (permalink)
 
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Stanwell, I have been trying to work out what her plan is, since this started
SOPS, I really think that some closeted advisor who never gets out into the real world told her that, with the native birth rate having dropped to 1.4, Germany needed a 'top up' of young people to get those numbers up so that there'll be enough 'Germans' still working ten and twenty years from now producing the taxes to pay for the ageing baby boomers's needs in their old age. That advisor - and Frau Merkel - didn't allow for the unassailable fact that, while some of these new immigrants will do what the she hopes they all will, if the experience of other Western nations who have taken in large numbers of immigrants of similar ethnic backgrounds is anything to go by, an alarmingly large proportion of them will not only take without giving, but will demand that Germany changes to accommodate their idea of how society should function.

Just so long as the 'old' Germany they wish to supplant continues to support their every need in the meantime.
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Old 30th Dec 2015, 11:47   #29 (permalink)
 
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Quiet please, sensitive immigrants might get upset

The German town of Arnsberg has banned noisy New Year fireworks in case it traumatises sensitive immigrants.

German town bans New Year fireworks near migrant shelters - BBC News

Pity they hadnt told the RAF who dropped a Tallboy on the nearby viaduct on 14th March 1945.

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Old 30th Dec 2015, 12:20   #30 (permalink)
 
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Merkel may be stupid and deluded but she HAS a plan. That plan is the maintenance of the status quo as of now and the continuing unification of Europe in the future. All of which would of course be financially managed from Berlin.

The problem is that the German people are only now wakening up to the reality of the economic situation, with many now asking why they are having to bail out Countries whose fiscal management was that of the playschool, and why their hard earned taxation money should be used to provide pensions to EU Countries that have never made such provision for this.

Anti-EU and anti-immigration feelings are rising in Germany and Merkel knows that given an opportunity their is a real risk that the population will say enough and demand radical change or reversal of Monetary Union.

Merkel is therefore playing a clever game by trying to shoot this fox and steal the opportunity for Opposition and other Parties to make this a serious issue. She believes that by moving to the Right she will retain those votes, and possibly will.

Against her is the rising tide of criminality in the bigger Cities with sexual assaults on women by Immigrants rising very fast.

My experience of the average German is that whilst they are quite tolerant and open to allowing Immigration, this is tempered by their view that Immigrants must integrate rather than create a duplication of the conditions from which they have come, and this is especially so where inter-community violence amongst Immigrants and criminality towards the indigenous population is concerned.

Make absolutely NO mistake Merkel has the European Plan written through her like a stick of rock.
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Old 30th Dec 2015, 16:42   #31 (permalink)
 
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How do you close the door on a circus tent when the clowns are in charge ?
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Old 30th Dec 2015, 20:11   #32 (permalink)
 
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The clowns do watch their audience and they know how to adjust their show if the audience does not follow them and decide to leave and/or bring other clowns.
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Old 1st Jan 2016, 22:59   #33 (permalink)
 
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Hey!, It's winter. Down to only 3,000 illegals a day crossing. That's a puny 1,095,000 a year. People who can't be bothered to fight for their way of life, mostly. Happy New Year Europe. You are so blind.
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 04:28   #34 (permalink)
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" People who can't be bothered to fight for their way of life "

Leaving aside the complete lack of any form of humanitarian understanding, notably for the number of women and children whose lives have been reduced to existing and surviving as best they can, in circumstances those of us fortunate enough to have been born in countries not affected by the carnage we can only see through a lens, it speaks volumes for their personal and emotional courage they are prepared to fight.......for their lives...by embarking on a journey with no known destination as such.

These images speak volumes......

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=re...HThqB7cQsAQIGw
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 04:36   #35 (permalink)
 
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They've managed to reach Europe,why keep walking North?
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 05:29   #36 (permalink)
 
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" People who can't be bothered to fight for their way of life "

Leaving aside the complete lack of any form of humanitarian understanding, notably for the number of women and children whose lives have been reduced to existing and surviving as best they can, in circumstances those of us fortunate enough to have been born in countries not affected by the carnage we can only see through a lens, it speaks volumes for their personal and emotional courage they are prepared to fight.......for their lives...by embarking on a journey with no known destination as such.
So Europeans haven't lived in countries affected by carnage?

Some people have very short memories, or are being quite dishonest.

K&C, which are you guilty of?
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A simple question which I cannot say I have heard asked yet.

Why do they all head for Europe where there are obvious language, cultural, political and religious differences and not head to the more prosperous Muslim Countries that are closer to them ?

Why are there no queues at the borders of Iran, Kazakhstan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Dubai, Bahrain, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, and more to the point why is it that only Europe seems to be interested in addressing the problem.

This is a wholly Muslim-based problem that should be solved by the powerful and rich Muslim nations of the Middle East. I can imagine the outcome form the aforementioned Countries if the situation was reversed and millions of Christians were trying to enter illegally.
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"(1)Why do they all head for Europe where there are obvious language, cultural, political and religious differences (2)and not head to the more prosperous Muslim Countries that are closer to them ?"


(1) Actual functioning economies.
(1a) Go in sufficient numbers and create enclaves unto themselves.(Not all of course but sufficient to create a parasitic system)


(2) Wrong tribes.
(2a) Wrong version of Koran.
(2b) They don't really care about "refugees".
(2c) Flimsy economies where the prosperous are the few.
(2d) Would be a harder life than in the West.
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 10:23   #39 (permalink)
 
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A new verb has entered the lexicon,the act of opening your gob and speaking a load of totaly insane shite will now be known as Merkeling or doing a Merkel.
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So in actual fact they are ALL economic migrants and NOT true refugees as those on the Left and associated fellow travellers and handwringers would have you believe.

On which basis under International Law Europe is not the closest "safe" Country and could (as the former Eastern Block countries have done) just close the borders and let them go elsewhere.

Why doesn't Europe then direct these people to the relevant Countries that match their Tribes, version of the Koran, etc.

If Islam is this supposedly all great Religion, then in the Koran it requires them to look after their own and thus they have a moral responsibility as well as a duty under their Religion to give support.
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