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Old 28th Dec 2012, 22:20   #1 (permalink)
 
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Railway stuff

While out walking earlier we looked from a bridge over the railway and I saw something that has me wondering. About 50 yards along the single track line I saw a strange yellow cylinder, the same diameter but about half as tall as a dustbin, on edge close to the side of the rails. It appears to be connected to to the nearest rail by a white 2.5 inch dia pipe and to the opposite rail by a couple of blue 3/4 inch dia pipes (they may have been cables). The connections are a couple of yards along from a track joint. About another 25 yards along the the line there is the same set up on the opposite side of the line, again not associated with a joint in the rails.

There is no obvious mechanical action at that section of the line nor any close signal equipment so what is it all about?

Rans6........
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Old 28th Dec 2012, 22:42   #2 (permalink)
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Railway stuff

Railway type friends of mine seem to think it may be something called a 'flange greaser'. Believing I was being subject to a wind up I did a Google search (with Safe Search firmly on!) and it appears to be real!! :-)
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Is there a curve adjacent? They sound a little like flange lubricators.
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Old 28th Dec 2012, 22:43   #4 (permalink)
 
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Hah! Beaten by seconds, look at the posting times.
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Old 28th Dec 2012, 23:01   #5 (permalink)
 
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A Lego reconstruction...

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Old 28th Dec 2012, 23:23   #6 (permalink)
 
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Sounds like one of the old trades,when we had tradesmen,
"I be a Flange Greaser I be"
Ticket for the Flange Greaser Ball would have been much sought after

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Old 28th Dec 2012, 23:25   #7 (permalink)
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Whatever happened to the wheeltapper's mate?
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Old 28th Dec 2012, 23:29   #8 (permalink)
 
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He got shunted off into involuntary retirement.
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 00:13   #9 (permalink)
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Sounds like one of the old trades,when we had tradesmen.
Sounds more like the subject of one of the many apprentice windups.
"Now lad. Get down the stores and tell him tha needs a greaser for tha flange?"
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 00:45   #10 (permalink)
 
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This used to be an apprentice project. We added dimensions and asked them to machine one up. Some got as far as ordering stock, others just sat there looking puzzled.
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 02:06   #11 (permalink)
 
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So that's where Boeing came up with the 727.
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 02:54   #12 (permalink)
 
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Don't knock the wheel tapper (pun intended ). Theirs was a very important and skilled job. By tapping the wheel the resulting sound gave an indication as to whether all was well or not. Quite reassuring when one is bowling along at 80mph.

As it is an extinct profession presumably nowadays one waits until the carriage comes off the rails at 125 mph.



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Old 29th Dec 2012, 02:57   #13 (permalink)
 
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It can't be extinct.

I clearly remember stopping in the dead of night at Carlisle Citadel Station back in the 80s and looking out to see what all that ringing noise was about.

OK, it could be extinct.
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 03:01   #14 (permalink)
 
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Dead as a dodo I'm afraid....

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Wheeltappers were replaced in the 1970s following the introduction of ultrasonic testing and lineside equipment which could detect overheated axle boxes
Overheated axle boxes ....wonderful....but what about them creeping hairline cracks in the wheel? Be afraid, very afraid.
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 03:38   #15 (permalink)
 
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Well, come to really carefully think about it......must have been when I was 17, that night alone, on the sleeper from Central to Euston.

So, 1977.

I remembers that clankin' tho, like it were larst night............
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 06:51   #16 (permalink)
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Ah, overheated axle boxes!

Dems were the days. Used to dream about t'overheated axle boxes...

And them flanges, them greased flanges!

All gone now, of course...
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 07:14   #17 (permalink)
 
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Mike, as every apprentice knows, that is a triple incambulated dual manifold.
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 07:25   #18 (permalink)
 
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They still tap wheels on trains in South Africa, it seems to be a speciality at early morning stops in places like De Aar and Beaufort West, to wake up the sleeping. Or maybe it's the sound of the wheels being nicked!
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 07:28   #19 (permalink)
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Now here's where some bright spark tells us why flanges don't wear out on corners. And no, it's not the grease - mostly not, anyway.
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Old 29th Dec 2012, 08:19   #20 (permalink)
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Is it because the taper of the wheel surface is doing most of the job, not the flange?
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