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Old 26th Dec 2012, 14:33   #101 (permalink)
 
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What I ponder is how having knives makes one more likely to be a victim?

If I am the proud owner of said implements of mass destruction....the knives in the wooden block thing on my kitchen counter top....and I happen to have one of them in my hand when confronting an Intruder....am I wrong in assuming it is the Intruder that is going to get cut and not me?

It sounds as though your buddy there wants to BE a victim....and has surrendered in mind and spirit to the Progressive Agenda that seeks to grant Victim Status to everyone in Society.

Sheep....there is no understanding the daft buggers!
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 14:48   #102 (permalink)
 
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Hey, ain't my "buddy". Especially since I am actually more "Liberal" than the pigging "Liberals"!!


Show me someone that is politically "Liberal" and I'll show you "Communist Lite".

That's what we have with that Liberal Democrat that says your new kitchen knives mean you are in more danger than if you never bought them.....................



I carry a knife at all times, one that has a 1" blade as part of a Swiss Army type tool . Ok, it's so sharp you can shave BUT the "point" isn't a "point" and is so blunt it takes 2 hits to puncture a balloon. In other words, the blade will cut but the chances of puncturing skin to the point of causing serious damage is at a minimum UNLESS you know what you are doing. One punch from me could cause far more catastrophic blood loss, a person would die within mins and there's not a thing that could be done to stop that, but unless you knew how to "open" that blade and then cut with it in the right manner it is useless as a weapon. It is a tool to cut tape or cling film that is wrapping things and no more.

Yet, according to GtW, I am at risk of being killed by said knife, despite the fact that an assailant has to get it off of me first..............



Can I have some of the mushrooms that GtW has been cooking with? They must be good ones, especially when fried in Brasso..........
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 15:09   #103 (permalink)
 
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For all that I'll never, ever return to the People's Republic of California, I for one considered the "cooling off period" "waiting period" CA enacted a couple of decades ago a good thing.

When I recently bought a new car, it was a multi day process, and when we picked the one on the lot, it was a few hours to run it through detail and fix the few bugs the missus and I noticed.

So I came back the next day.

I have never purchased a firearm in a hurry, and in one case (a deer rifle) put a few bucks down for the store to hold it for me and then went back to get a check to pay the balance. (No, I wasn't using credit cards much in those days).

It seems to me that the intent of "cooling off period" was to prevent "I am mad gonna buy a gun and shoot hizass" crimes, though I don't know if it has done so.

It also allows the background check process to have a chance to alert the store owner if he's got a buyer who may be a felon, etc.

Anyway, it's a form of legislation that I can personally live with.

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Old 26th Dec 2012, 15:12   #104 (permalink)
 
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I watched a documentary last night on RT about the LA gangs,Bloods and Crips?
You know what,I think you folks across there are fecked.
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 15:28   #105 (permalink)
 
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It seems to me that the intent of "cooling off period" was to prevent "I am mad gonna buy a gun and shoot hizass" crimes, though I don't know if it has done so.
To me, it's the option of deciding whether I have bought a gun and deciding I don't actually need one. Kinda like getting credit, if I needed it, I would........




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I watched a documentary last night on RT about the LA gangs,Bloods and Crips?
You know what,I think you folks across there are fecked.
Do remember them nuts don't get firearms legally. Kinda like the MAC10's that have been used on the streets in the UK..........
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 15:40   #106 (permalink)
 
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They had more guns than Gen Santa Anna had at the Alamo.
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 15:56   #107 (permalink)
 
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Maybe, just maybe, if there was more firepower at the Alamo the result would have been different...........


Ozzy wouldn't have cared though.........
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 16:04   #108 (permalink)
 
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Drapes....it is far simpler than you think....installation of a rear door would have put paid to the Gallant Stand at the Alamo!
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 16:46   #109 (permalink)
 
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Currently, however, Mr. Obama via his Attorney General is supplying the Mexican drug cartels with hardware.

Operation Fast and Furious knowingly allowed 2,000 weapons to proceed to known 'straw' buyers for the various cartels along the U.S./Mexican border. Gun store owners were coerced by the governing body for firearmes, the ATFE, to allow said sales even though the store owners objected.

The death toll is some 300+, including a U.S. Border Patrol agent, a U.S. Immigration agent, and several dozen Mexican kids.

Less than 1/2 of the weapons have been accounted for.


So, I a legal gun owner, should hand mine over without any justification other than some don't like that I have 'em, but the U.S. Government knowingly aids in the arming of foreign drug cartels that have killed hundreds and not one criminal proceeding against the officials responsible.

Them and Gertrude first...
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 17:08   #110 (permalink)

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am I wrong in assuming it is the Intruder that is going to get cut and not me?
Quite likely yes, it turns out unless of course you are trained in the use of a knife for combat. If you don't know what to do with it a more likely outcome is that the bad guy will take it off you and stick it in you.
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 17:18   #111 (permalink)
 
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Gertrude....you really must get a life Hon!

Time to put you into the "Peanut Gallery" along with PTT, The Sultan, and a handful of others as there is no sense to your posts.
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 17:25   #112 (permalink)
 
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Whenever I read about how things are so much better in the peaceful little hamlet where there are no guns and clear views from deep inside the rectum, a little ditty from their past comes to mind:

'Whatever happens, we have got, the Maxim gun and they have not.'

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Old 26th Dec 2012, 17:28   #113 (permalink)
 
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Gertrude

Or people like you will just give the assailant what he wants without standing up to them, since most "home intruders" are actually more scared of someone standing up to them (don't believe me, look at the stats), and thereby fuel the fire that means that type of scum not only survive but continue to do the same.......



You live in your nice, "safe" area where the lambs gambol and everyone has cute little puppy dogs. I've lived in areas where the opposite is true.


I've never been successfully attacked, they have always "lost" and that is why I have the three pigstickers in strategic places "just in case" although the chances of anything happening here are somewhere around the chances of GtW talking about something he knows about, although I have put those who attack me into the gutter where they belong. I know what the real world is, the world where some piece of human dogshit WILL cut you unless you cut them first in your own home. The world where you beat the shit out of someone trying to break into the house next door, the world where you know where to stand so the first time someone knows where you are is when you get that satisfying *thwack* of willow on skull. Or the moment some teenagers think that your wallet looks better in their pocket than in yours on a major artery in London......

When you have been there, then you can open your mouth and pontificate. Until then, do us all a favour and shut up. And get rid of the knives in your home, the ones you believe will be used as a weapon against you by someone already wielding a bigger one. That is what you said, after all........

You know shit, your own so-called "Liberal" beliefs are the ones that have led to the rise in all sorts of violent crime as it is these "beliefs" which have led to the non-punishment of criminals we see today. YOU are a major part of the problem and, God forbid, if some of these issues landed in your house it would teach why you were wrong and you would change your mind. Unfortunately, it would take you being attacked in your own home before you realised it, and that is something I would not wish on anyone. But, until that moment comes, you cannot speak about diddly because you only have the "ideals" and not the actual "experience. When you have the latter, then speak to us because, at this moment, your power trip of being a councillor means absolutely nothing. .............

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Old 26th Dec 2012, 17:41   #114 (permalink)
 
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Funny thing is, drawing comparisons between the UK and America is pointless.

The NRA will do all in its power, by fair means or foul, to ensure that any attempt to reform gun laws or ownership will be undermined. As memories fade of the Newtown slaughter, Nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song and we all sing along like before. Another school will bury its dead and the NRA will say it isn't guns that kill.

If killing children prevents tyranny who are we to argue?
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 17:46   #115 (permalink)
 
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If killing children prevents tyranny who are we to argue
What the bollocks are you wittering on about? Do you actually have a point to make?
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 17:51   #116 (permalink)
 
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Hellsbrink, I can't be arsed dealing with your arrogant condescending shyte. Unless you are just being a **** for the sheer hell of it, which you probably are. I think it is pretty self evident what I am trying to say but since you ask

Gun ownership prevents tyranny
Mass shootings in schools are no reason to regulate gun ownership

QED as the NRA see it mass shootings are a reasonable collateral damage to ensure democracy.
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 17:55   #117 (permalink)
 
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So how does that work with the tyranny in Syria that has killed more children? Or the tyranny in Iran? Or the tyranny in North Korea? Or in China (especially China with their policies)?


Or are you another one that only feels sorry for the kids the media tells you to feel sorry about?




PS. Where was that nonsense you are spouting when Breivik went on one? After all, plenty young, innocent, people were killed then, same as the nut that attacked schoolchildren in Chengping on 14/12. Or does that mean nothing because it wasn't the USA?

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Old 26th Dec 2012, 17:59   #118 (permalink)
 
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From U.S. government stats. Deaths per year from selected causes per Centers for Disease Control, FBI, US Federal Government.

Ten Big Killers in the U.S.

Tobacco use, 529,000
Medical errors, 195,000
Unintentional injuries, 118,021
Alcohol abuse, 107,000
Motor vehicle accidents, 34,485
Unintentional poisoning, 31,758
Drug abuse, 25,500
Unintentional falls, 24,792
*Non-firearm homicides, 16,799
Firearm homicides, 11,493

*According to the FBI, the #1 weapon used in violent crimes...is a baseball bat. Perhaps there should be a outcry to ban baseball bats. Too many law-abiding citizens enjoy them safely for sporting purposes...so disregard.
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 18:01   #119 (permalink)
 
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Hell, no, Desert. Look at how many people die in auto accidents.

Ban cars
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 18:29   #120 (permalink)
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Hell, no, Desert. Look at how many people die in auto accidents.

Ban cars
And since they are all neatly registered and mostly parked in the driveways, TempSpike wouldn't even have to kick any doors. Just show up with a tow truck.
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