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Old 3rd Oct 2012, 23:42   #1 (permalink)
 
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50 years down the line and how things change....

Fifty years ago this week, the Beatles released their first single 'Love Me Do', and unwittingly launched Beatlemania.

However, today's teen doesn't seem to be that impressed.

I suppose that you could argue that there is now a much broader spectrum of musical tastes to choose from, but a good tune is still just that. Interestingly one teen said that it was boringly repetitive which I personally objected to when you consider some of the 'popular' tracks of today.
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It is repetitive, but then again so are many popular songs, perhaps pop music in general ? The harmonica is pretty cool in "Love Me Do" though.....


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Old 4th Oct 2012, 06:44   #3 (permalink)
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I used to have a music teacher who was a Beatles nut. He tried to convince the class that Ringo was the best drummer in the world. I replied (and stole a line from Lennon) that he wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles.

The pupil teacher relationship went very downhill after that.
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That is a good line !

I had heard it said before, didn't know it was a Lennon line.


Look at a lot of songs from that era, love me do was not that bad
and definitely isn't compared to some modern music !

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Old 4th Oct 2012, 07:21   #5 (permalink)
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I don't mean any disrespect to the esteemed posters above, with whom I agree anyway - but whenever I find myself (increasingly) grumbling about the yoof of today, I think of a quote from Horace, born 65BC, and one of the smartest blokes who ever lived, in my book. Here's the quote, about one of Horace's mates:

"Tiresome, complaining, a praiser of past times, when he was a boy, a castigator and censor of the young generation."

We all do it, and always have, it seems.
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 07:25   #6 (permalink)
 
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My 17 year old son loves the Beatles music, has most of their albums, to my great relief listens to their music at home more than he listens to the modern dross, and enjoyed a visit to the 'The Beatles Experience' in Liverpool a few years ago as much as I did.
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 07:33   #7 (permalink)
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I'm still young(ish) and I'm pretty keen on Pola Negri and Marika Rokk ...
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 08:18   #8 (permalink)

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I remember hearing ‘Love Me Do’ on Juke Box Jury at the time it was released. My first thought was ‘hey, this is good’. My second thought was ‘Beatles, what a stupid name’.
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I was a Rolling Stones fan, never took to the Beatles.
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 08:22   #10 (permalink)
 
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Interestingly one teen said that it was boringly repetitive
God help him if they ever play him Wagner. He went on for days, at least the Beatles only went on for at Most Twenty minutes, or however long a side on Vinyl LP lasted! *

*OK a couple of hours if you counted the films!

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Went to see them at the ABC cinema in Carlisle in October 1963. That was in the days when hugely popular groups were still willing to tour and appear in small venues. Cost me 8/6d (42 1/2 p) and before anyone says "I expect that was a lot of money then" - it wasn't. God knows what you have to pay to see some bunch of boy band nonentities at the O2 now.

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It is repetitive, but then again so are many popular songs,
Sometimes when hearing the noise emanating from my son's room I think he has a record stuck in the groove, until I remember that I-players don't have grooves

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Old 4th Oct 2012, 09:04   #12 (permalink)
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The late founder of the company I work for was the owner of the famous Cavern in the early 60's. He decided to sell as he didnt want to divert from his jazz interests at the time! Believing the beat mania would ruin the joint!!

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Old 4th Oct 2012, 09:07   #13 (permalink)
 
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The late founder of the company I work for was the owner of the famous Cavern in the early 60's.
Used to work in The Temple, Dale St. 1951 - 1955, and the Cavern was off the courtyard !!

Little did I know !!

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Old 4th Oct 2012, 09:08   #14 (permalink)

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Yep, I'll go for Horace, too. Sixth form Latin was a hoot!
I liked (I think it was his father's) comment: Nescit bene relinquere - he never knows when to stop (speaking in iambic pentameters, I think he meant).

Beatles were sort-of OK but I'd discovered Mozart about the same time, and it was no contest.
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God knows what you have to pay to see some bunch of boy band nonentities at the O2 now.
Dunno about the O2, but at the Antwerp Sportpaleis/Lotto Arena we have:-

€34 per ticket for Bloc Party

€85 for the highest price "normal" ticket for Justin Bieber (prices go up to €425 for the "VIP Meet'nGreet" package )

Up to €244 for Chris Brown

Up to €49 for Hooverphonic

Up to €54 for Swedish House Mafia.


If I look at other venues in places like Brussels, I'll get even sillier prices.
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 09:45   #16 (permalink)
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The same music teacher spouted that George Harrison had hit a chord at the start of "Hard Day's Night" that nobody had ever been able to work out exactly what it was. In the lesson the following week, we had been messing about with guitars. He left the room and as soon as the door swung shut, I struck a power chord G7sus4. He turned on his heels entered the room and glowered at me.

RJM, I have to disagree with you. For example, Hendrix has been equalled or bettered however he and his peers invented it in the first place so much respect to them. Few bands can play properly these days however there are notable exceptions such as Foo Fighters, Muse, Biffy Clyro etc. Queen at Live Aid were a great example where they played everyone else off the stage through pure ability. Awesome in their prime.
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The fact is that music from the early 60s is regularly given air time today. When we were happening on the Beatles and others of their ilk how many of these songs from 1913 were being played?

Al Jolson The Spaniard Who Blighted My Life
Henry Burr Last Night Was the End of the World
Harry Lauder It's Nicer to Be in Bed
Elsie Baker Daddy Has a Sweetheart & Mother is Her Name

Songs from the Year 1913
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50 years ain't musical longevity! I'm currently listening to Bach's cello suites, composed nearly 300 years ago! (1983 recording by Paul Tortelier).

A few years ago, Richard Thompson was asked (by Playboy) to list great songs from the last millenium. They probably meant 20th century pop stuff, but he took them literally and started out with "Sumer is Icumen in" from the 13th century. He went on to tour with the material, and also recorded an album "1000 Years of Popular Music". Great stuff. He even includes a cover of "Ooops! I did it again", repeated as "Marry, Ageyn Hic Hev Donne Yt".

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Old 4th Oct 2012, 11:51   #19 (permalink)
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Good choice MagnusP.

The chord sequence from Pachelbel's Canon turns up in all sorts of places such as U2's "With Or Without You" and dozens of other artists. You'll never listen to it the same way again !

The Rolling Stones were once asked what they thought of Rap artists sampling their stuff. The answer was that it was black artists ripping off white artists who had ripped off black artists.

Plus ca change !
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