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Old 25th Aug 2012, 23:54   #1 (permalink)
 
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Tiger killed in German zoo

I'm on the side of the tiger: how would you like to be cooped up in a zoo?

BBC News - Tiger kills zookeeper in Cologne, Germany
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 03:13   #2 (permalink)

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Well it wasn't the tiger's fault. They don't have tranquilizer darts in Germany? Technology not that advanced there?
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 03:18   #3 (permalink)
 
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This poor woman worker dies horrifically, yet all you can manage is an imbecilic remark!
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 03:22   #4 (permalink)
 
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If you remember the Ohio idiot that had a whole zoo of animals that he let loose before committing suicide. Interesting case on the subject of tranqulizers. The police tried, with vets, to use tranqulizers, but the cats just about got the chop on some deputies. It was then recommended to start hunting and killing them was the only solution to protect the local citizens. It was a long night of hard hunting, but the police succeeded in killing most of them.

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I'm guessing wild animals don't really belong in a zoo for our amusement...the workers take their chances, and I'm sure know the many risks...although I love zoos and they do help conserve certain rare or endangered animals; the risk never goes away

Reminds me when I was very young visiting Queens zoo they had a bull behind a fence...This bull didn't approach anyone even when he was being offered carrots, I guess he wasn't that social..but somehow decided to approach me and ate the grass stalks I was offering him...I think he noted that I am a Taurus...
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 04:08   #6 (permalink)
 
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This isn't exactly a "Bull kills bullfighter...hooray" kind of story. A random woman visits a zoo and through negligence gets gets ripped or chomped to death. I can't really get on the "side" of the tiger. Too bad it had to be shot, but I don't put the value of its life above the life of the woman it killed.

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 04:23   #7 (permalink)
 
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I'm guessing wild animals don't really belong in a zoo for our
amusement...the workers take their chances, and I'm sure know the many
risks...although I love zoos and they do help conserve certain rare or
endangered animals; the risk never goes away
The goal of most zoos is to instill and develop an appreciation for the animals and education, not really for entertainment (I'm speaking of 1st world zoos). There's a lot of conservation effort, study, and interchange breeding programs to strenthen endangered species through tracking bloodlines etc.

For many endangered species the various zoos serve a type of ark that preserves them, does the biology, and works to keep it healthy. Meanwhile, the ones in the wild are difficult at best to protect and still being eaten for lunch somewhere.

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Oh I'm not against zoos just trying to emphasize the risk...you are correct...but I do go to them, as does most of the public, for a form of entertainment...and to get laid [no not by the animals] etc...

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 04:50   #9 (permalink)
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A random woman visits a zoo
She was a zookeeper and wasn't attacked in a public area.Tragic.
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Blame the tiger for being a tiger? Transfer that to humans and you'd be a racist. It's a chance you take working in that environment, I reckon.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 05:53   #11 (permalink)
 
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I'm guessing wild animals don't really belong in a zoo for our amusement
I've been thinking about it, too. Actually some seem to enjoy it, like the wild boar - they make the most of their territory (interesting craters) and doze off most of the time. Daytime, anyway. And the seals swim closer and take a look at you, making you wonder who's actually being looked at.

Poor woman of course. A couple of years ago we were at a tiger's cage when it (she, actually, we were told later) started to look behind us very intently and almost purred aloud, and then the attendant came and spoke to her. She was visibly pleased (the tiger) and the attendant said to us: "Well, but she would eat me up anyway." That's the way they are.
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Blame the tiger for being a tiger?Transfer that to humans and you'd be a racist.
Except nobody blamed the tiger for being a tiger, so I guess you won't be smoking-out any "animal racists" today.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 07:29   #13 (permalink)
 
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Pretty sure the tiger saw the keeper as prey. It's what tigers do. Killing it for doing what tigers do is the point I'm making. IOW, getting on someone's case for reasons they're unable to control, ie, skin colour, physical features, nationality, would be akin to blaming the tiger for being a tiger.
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Live by the sword ...... if an animal is kept in captivity and gets a chance to do what comes naturally or to escape, it may well do so.

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The tiger was then shot dead by the director of the zoo through a skylight, before it could get to public areas.
Good, it's better off dead than in a cage in a zoo.

Other than those which are kept purely for research and conservation, I dislike zoos.
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So the tiger saw the keeper as prey. So to sum up, what you're saying is...

1)"The sky is blue", and

2) If someone said the sky wasn't blue, they would be like a racist.

Well good thing you put that out there. Btw, have you actually met someone in your life that wouldnt know the tiger saw the zookeeper as prey? Someone who knows what a tiger is, I mean.

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On the one hand, we keep getting told that tigers are an endangered species. Fact.

On the other hand, the GM of a zoo goes and shoots a tiger dead for being....errhhh... a tiger. Go figure.

No tranquilizer gun at hand in a zoo?
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 08:03   #17 (permalink)
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Jemand lass es mich wissen, wenn die Haut kommt zum Verkauf auf e bay?
Das ist das Tigerfell natürlich.

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Good, it's better off dead than in a cage in a zoo.

Other than those
which are kept purely for research and conservation, I dislike zoos.
You must be used to really crappy, Third World zoos. Here's some tiger conservation and research AND people can see and learn to appreciate them. They aren't mutually exclusive choices..

Minnesota Zoo

Association of Zoos and Aquariums

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I'm not used to 'really crappy third world zoos' I'm used to game reserves in Africa, and the only other 'zoo' I've been to (as an adult anyway) is Durrell Wildlife in Jersey, which is dedicated to conservation and education.

I dislike the principle of keeping animals in captivity. I still remember when I was a small boy being taken to London Zoo and thinking how cruel it was to keep those magnificent animals pacing up and down all day in tiny cages in an unnatural environment for the edification of the human animals gawking in.
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I'm not used to 'really crappy third world zoos' I'm used to game reserves in Africa, and the only other 'zoo' I've been to (as an adult anyway) is Durrell Wildlife in Jersey, which is dedicated to conservation and education.
African game reserves are great for African animals, but they aren't even close to being the only animals in the world, and they only work if they can keep the poachers out.

And maybe some do more than you think down in your neck of the woods...
Minnesota Zoo

And you're going to judge all zoos on the basis of visiting one as an adult? I think a lot more of them provide for natural habitat and do a lot more research than you realize. It's the norm, not the exception.

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I dislike the principle of keeping animals in captivity. I still remember when I was a small boy being taken to London Zoo and thinking how cruel it was to keep those magnificent animals pacing up and down all day in tiny cages in an unnatural environment for the edification of the human animals gawking in.
Oh, well I don't know about the London Zoo but most have come a long way since then. "Tiny cages" have been out for about the last 30 years or so.

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