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Old 14th Aug 2012, 21:51   #1 (permalink)
 
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Motor racing the opposite way round.

I wonder if anyone's tried driving around famous circuits in the reverse direction?

Thinking of some famous circuits I wonder how some sections would drive?

1) Clay Hill - Oulton Park
2) Eau Rouge - Spa
3) Lowes - Monaco (yes I know it's been renamed)
4) The Corkscrew- Laguna Seca
5) Druids to Paddock Hill - Brands Hatch
6) Hammerhead - Top Gear.

Any more?

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Old 14th Aug 2012, 22:03   #2 (permalink)
 
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Immediate reaction is you'd lose the RHD advantage. Some or a lot of cars were built this way because of R/H circuits, eg Porsche 917, there may be more. Ive got a LHD-only car and on a track like Goodwood it's a pain in the rear as there's only one (I think) left hander.

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I'm sure there used to be a race meeting every year at Brandersnatch where every race was wrong way; could have been motor bikes but I remember seeing ads for 'wrong way round at Brands'.
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Did they have to turn all the road signs about face?
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I don't think Bathurst would be as formidable in reverse...

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When Indianapolis added the infield part of the track for F1 the part of the oval that was used for the circuit was ran backwards (clockwise) in relation to Indycar and Nascar which run anti-clockwise.

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Bathurst (Mt Panorama) would lose all it's fun if driven the other way
- the dip coming off the mount, Conrod straight.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 05:49   #8 (permalink)

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Eau Rouge at Spa was part of the road network so , yes you could drive it the other way.
I remember watching a Belgian roll an Opel Kadett trying it - complete with Granny and the family dog in the back. Recent road improvements have taken the fun out of it.
It's frightenng enough the right way round, even at HRC speeds. The sensation was there every lap that I was going into the crowd.
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Eau Rouge certainly (in the old format) was a formidable combination and unfortunately killed Stefan Belhof...(although there are those who claim that it was either Belhof's impatience or Ickz's tactics that caused this terrible accident at Eau Rouge).

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Brands Hatch

Initially before the Druids loop was built (1953?) Brands Hatch ran counter clockwise. The Formula III cars (500cc) struggled to get up paddock hill.
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Contrary to current practice, some of the early races at Albert Park in Melbourne were, IIRC run in a counter-clockwise direction.

I've driven it countless times in a wide variety of vehicles (incl LHD) at relatively law abiding speeds in both directions and prefer the latter.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 08:54   #12 (permalink)
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I'm sure there used to be a race meeting every year at Brandersnatch where every race was wrong way; could have been motor bikes but I remember seeing ads for 'wrong way round at Brands'.
I believe that that was 'stock cars' or banger racing rather than formula cars.
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Surely the speed wouldn't be there..... Do any cars have more than one gear in reverse?
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Surely the speed wouldn't be there..... Do any cars have more than one gear in reverse?
The DAF Variomatic's top speed in "reverse mode" was the same as forwards. Whether or not one would wish to race such a vehicle at Brands Hatch etc is another matter!

However, in the former Dutch annual backward driving world championship, the DAFs had to be put in a separate competition because no other car could keep up.

Some two-stroke powered cars from the 50s and 60s weren't fitted with a separate reverse gear, but an integral Siba Dynastart unit enabled the engine to run backwards, effectively giving an equal number of reverse gears.

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The bike racers used to run Loudon, NH backwards all the time, when it was called 'Noduol'.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 10:33   #16 (permalink)

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Olivers Mount at Scarborough was primarily a bike circuit but was used (full lap) as a car rally stage as well*. The rally cars did the circuit clockwise, the bikes anti-clockwise. Remember it well after a mate of mine put his car through the wooden hut, used as a cafe, at the top of the hill.

(* Apparently there were also a couple of car races there in the mid 50s but I don't know which way the car races went).
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Way back in the mists of time when Moley was playing Formula Ford at the Brands Hatch racing school, one of the final tests used to be driving the track in the opposite sense...to see if you could learn a different track on your own, without actually going anywhere else!
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Surely the speed wouldn't be there..... Do any cars have more than one gear in reverse?
An electric car at the Goodwood Festival of Speed did the whole hill climb in reverse, in a respectable time.

the LEAF can go just as fast in reverse as it can forwards. The company aimed to set a record for the fastest mile in reverse at Goodwood last year, but officials deemed it too dangerous given a lack of testing. Clearly their requirements have now been met as stunt driver Terry Grant is on backward-driving duties. Nissan points out that as the LEAF’s batteries are under-floor, it has a low centre of gravity, making it “very stable at speed with little body roll under cornering. And with fewer moving parts than a conventional car, there’s less likelihood of mechanical issues thwarting the attempt.” Indeed.

from 2012 Goodwood Festival of Speed: electric car preview



The question is, did the driver avoid using the rear (now front) wiper to avoid the distraction or give some extra amps to the drive motor?

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