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Old 29th Jul 2012, 07:32   #1 (permalink)
 
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That Kodak moment...

The sad fact that Eastman Kodak went into Chapter 11 bankrupty protection this year after years of furiously trying to innovate its way out of trouble in the digital camera market is yet another example of how a short period of complacency or hubris can doom even the most iconic of companies.

Still I have a soft spot for those old Kodak cameras and most of all for the cinematic film that allowed all those old family films and memories...

Sunday nights were never the same when my father finally stowed the old projector and the reign of the idiot box began... and digital cameras took our souls away.

Mistakes Made On The Road To Innovation - Businessweek




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Old 29th Jul 2012, 07:55   #2 (permalink)
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Only discussing that today. Kodak was slow on its feet. Complacency, as you say - I wonder what Geo Eastman wouid have done...

The loss of those juicy colours in Kodachrome is a sad thing. Maybe someone will come up with a digital version - just hit the button and your image is rendered in Kodachrome!

Check out these beautiful Kodachromes: Amazing WWII Homefront Kodachrome Photos....YES AMAZING - Ashtar Command - Spiritual Community Network

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 08:07   #3 (permalink)
 
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Check out these beautiful Kodachromes:
Truly evocative series of photographs RMJ! Rosy the rivetress never look better!

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 08:24   #4 (permalink)
 
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RJM,

thanks for the link.

it is a pity Kodak never manged to pull itself forward, the world looked so much more tactile in kodachrome
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 09:02   #5 (permalink)
 
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Back in the '70's/'80's Kodak went into the high volume photocopying market.
Their product was excellent but I believe they got into deepwater with the antitrust laws, over monopolising their aftersales parts and service. Probably cost them lots of dollars.
If only they had stayed with what they did best
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 09:03   #6 (permalink)
 
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it is a pity Kodak never manged to pull itself forward, the world looked so much more tactile in kodachrome
Amen to that We take SO many images these days, of almost everything, yet the soull seems to be lacking in many, especially where humans are involved as even the kids are 'media-aware' and know how to pose to look like the professionals...



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Old 29th Jul 2012, 09:50   #7 (permalink)
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Don't forget, Kodak also pushed the film industry into Ektachrome, a high-margin product for Kodak which has the unfortunate side-effect of fading incredibly fast when projected. So, old Kodak-based stuff hangs around forever, more recent stuff fades away. Kodak deserves a kicking for that.

Luckily, Fujifilm Eterna-RDS is here to save the day. Some studios even back up digital movies on to it.
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Nokia looks not far behind.

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 13:07   #9 (permalink)
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Maybe someone will come up with a digital version - just hit the button and your image is rendered in Kodachrome!
There are several programmes or plug-ins for rendering your pictures and movies into different film stock styles.

As just one example: If you have an i-phone then you could try out 'Film Lab' which can simulate over 70 different stocks. Here is a link to their website:
(You need to go to page 11 of the samples pages to see the Kodak film stocks.)

Film Simulation / Filter List

(Apologies for the advertising. Film Lab is nothing to do with me.)
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Hang on Folks - - - Not every part of Kodak went out of business.

The company diversified its still profitable elements into separate companies and let the rest go.

I can still get Elite Chrome film so the world isn't over yet!
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Having spent may years at the Douglas Long Beach Plant, I've walked the halls of the buildings where some of those pictures (from RJM's link) were taken.

The buildings are long gone now, but the memories will live on.

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Google may not be another.................sounds nuts saying this now, resurrect in 2020 to see,
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 20:52   #13 (permalink)
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The buildings are long gone now, but the memories will live on.
The buildings may have gone, but the C-47 flies on. The last C-47 was delivered to RAAF 1945, and its last four C-47s were retired in 1998, still going strong with ARDU (a/c research and development unit - motto "We get there...eventually". The point was, they always got there. I believe the C-47 airframe has an unlimited life. There are still a couple flying commercially around here.
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There are still a couple flying commercially around here.
Actually, here as well. Just across the airfield from the old Long Beach Douglas Plant. They run freight out to Catalina Island a couple times a day.

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 21:08   #15 (permalink)
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I was last time I looked...

That truck will be scrap long before the C-47/DC3 gives out.

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 21:20   #16 (permalink)
 
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How ironic that the digital camera was invented in the labs of Eastman Kodak (by Engineer, Steven Sasson).
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Is it not time that the C47/DC3 was determined by the UN as an 'item of special scientific and historical interest'?

It must be an icon of the same historical importance as the Spitfire, Lancaster, B17, B707, B747 and Concorde.
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 23:11   #18 (permalink)
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Ken Rockwell does a good review and teach-in. Funny though, he advocates screwing up the colour several notches - as standard.

He must know what he's doing, but . . .


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Re Kodak inventing the digital camera.

They had a great few products at the beginning but they didn't relate the Digital camera to the consumer market, only the Professional market until it was too late
and others had got the jump on them.

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Here's the complete WW2 series.

And then some more....


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