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Old 10th Jul 2012, 18:59   #1 (permalink)
 
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Dynamo, magician - How does he do it ?

I've taken to watching this chap do his tricks and whilst some are definitely by sleight of hand there are some that just leave me scratching my head as to how he does them. One that really 'cooks my noodle' to paraphrase a film quote, is where he takes someone's mobile phone (iPhone) and then takes a beer bottle off someone else, often emptying the last dregs of liquid, and then holding bottle in one hand and phone in other, slaps them together and just like that (Tommy Cooper voice ) the phone is inside the bottle and the amazed bystanders then ring the phone to confirm that it's one and the same......

Anyone else seen this/these trick(s) ? ANy ideas as to how he does it ? I was at a posh party at the weekend where one of the entertainers was a children's magician, but even sitting in front of him whilst he did his act, it was so difficult to see how he did the tricks, but then again, maybe I'm not the brightest button.



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Old 10th Jul 2012, 19:22   #2 (permalink)
 
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The obvious answer is he takes a phone from a henchman in the crowd,switches the empty one for a one with a phone already in it that he causes to ring by pressing a button in his pocket,one tother hand he could be using real magic.
That Paul Daniels is a arseole of the first water but he was a brilliant slight of hand operator,saw him pull a folded brown paper bag out of his pocket unfold it blow in as if to burst it as one does, then reach into it and pull a full pint of beer out,how the bloody hell did he do that?
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Tony,

Not sure if you've seen this Dynamo character, but he does a lot in the street. He has a new programme on Sky. He did a new take on the phone in a bottle trick last night.

He took a phone from a girl, and a bottle from a bloke. He said he would show them how he did the trick.

Using sleight of hand, he 'shrank' the phone (part of his patter as to how it gets in the bottle). He then held the phone to the bottle, shook them and the phone ended up in the bottle, full size. He then asked another in the group of friends (again this trick was done in the street) to ring the girly... the mobile in the bottle then started to ring...

Very clever.

This is the chap who once sent a box to the BBC then told Greg James a few days later (Radio one DJ) to go out and buy a newspaper (any one) and to find a story on it he liked. He was to circle the story.

Dynamo then arrived for an interview. The box stayed in the posession of the Greg James' assistant during the interview. At the end, Dynamo asked him (James) to show him the newspaper story he had chosen. He then left the studio telling them, as he left, to open the box.

Inside was a sheet of A4 with a handrawn representation of the story Greg James had chosen from a random paper, along with skethes of the 2 photos in the story, along with other side stories on the same page...

The guy is a very clever trickster, and worth a look... His new series is currently running on Sky. Whilst you can see the trickery on a few of his tricks (or at least see the prop), the majority are breathtaking, all the more so as it is street magic, and unless a total set-up, there is no obvious room for deceit...
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You have to separate magicians from illusionists.

Magicians hold supernatural powers so what they do is the same as someone playing the piano when you can't get a note out of it. In other words what they do is easy for them; they probably can't understand why everyone can't do tricks. Magicians are boring as are uncles who think kids believe they can steal your nose.

On the other hand illusionists are mind-bendingly incredible. Penn & Teller are not magicians. They are clever accomplished illusionists with a masters degree in distraction, forcing and something else I'm not allowed to tell you.

So where does Dynamo fit in? Well I think he's a magician masquerading as an illusionist.

And with that I disap...........................
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Old 10th Jul 2012, 22:42   #5 (permalink)

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Further to the above comments, I too am fascinated watching this guy. In the show that was on tonight, he held a coin in his hand against a glass, and (apparently) the glass became so hot in his hand that the coin left an impression in the 'molten' glass!
Similarly, in front of bunch of onlookers, he held his hand on the front of a glass showcase in a shop, and (again apparently) got the glass so hot that it left an impression of his hand in the glass!
However he does it (and like lots of others, I would love to know how) he is a very clever and accomplished performer.
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Never believe what you see on telly.
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Never believe what you see on telly.
Or indeed, anywhere else...
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I've just sat through an hour of him doing his stuff in Rio de Janeiro and some of them were nigh on impossible to stage beforehand, he really does seem to have quite an ability. To see him doing his trick in front of hoards of kids from the favela with no razzamatazz was very cute.



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The basic technique is often surprisingly straightforward, its making it look slick,flawless & convincing that takes skill and a lot of practice. (Much like piloting really!) Its the same with the psychological trickery used by people such as Derren Brown.
Most tricks/illusions are variations and adaptions of others, using one or more of the "core" techniques.
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Old 15th Jul 2012, 07:16   #10 (permalink)
 
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Years ago before he was on the box, he mainly performed at private functions. Friend of mine said he did one trick with a 50p piece

Laid it in the palm of his hand, put his thumb over it and turned his hand upside down

Counted to 5

Turned his hand over, 50p gone

That simple and clean. My friend was 1ft away
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There are only so many basic tricks; the skill is in showing then in different ways so that people think they are different tricks...

The phone and the bottle?

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As the OP of this thread, I was wondering if Dynamo had started this thread as a trick, especially as the date was around today's date, until I realised that it was one of many forgotten threads that I have started. Strangely I was watching his new series 2 days ago and some of the tricks were amazing in their simplicity and complexity. To be honest I'm more enchanted with the mystery of how he might do the tricks than actually finding out the facts.

One of the cleverest he did was to put a cup under a table and to 'transfer' the coffee from a cup directly above the table, all from a customers cup and in front of them Unless they are all 'plants' to act incredulously whilst the rest is done in the editing suite, I have no idea.


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For these TV shows - some are indeed done in the editing suite, and some are tricks involving fields of view which can ONLY be done on camera - ie all of the live people can see how it is done.

In terms of editing suit tricks, the magician (David Blane is famous for this) performs a simple trick in front of an agreeable crowd, like levitating. This trick can be done by turning your back and angling your leg to hide the front part of your left foot with your right leg. You then just raise up on your left foot's tippy toes, keeping the right foot level as it rises off the ground. The effect is a two inch levitation. The other way is to build a false rear pant leg and shoe, so that you kick out our foot from the (hidden) front of the pant leg and just step up on something.

The crowd agreeably "Oooh" and "Aaah" and give interviews along the lines of "Wow - he just levitated, Man!" - you capture all of that reaction on film. Later you go back to the same spot and film the "trick" again - only this time the magician uses a crane and cables to do an (on camera) AMAZING levitation - in the editing suite you cut them both together.

An example of a "field of view" trick would be the "big" disappearances like the Statue of Liberty etc. The TV camera, magician and all of the guest chairs are built on top of a platform which is on wheels and can move sideways. Once the view is covered, the platform is dragged sideways until the camera field of view just misses the Statue, and the view is revealed. The TV audience cannot detect the sideways motion, of course - although the "trick" is obvious to any live guests.

The phone in a bottle - the bottle is cut open and the phone placed inside before hand. The guy who hands over the phone is a shill. The only trick is to distract while you swap the empty bottle handed to you for the bottle with the phone in it. The phone which is handed to you is whipped up the sleeve by an apparatus you can buy in any magic shop.

The coffee through the coffee table is done by sliding the glass back to move a hole into position under the cup. The glass has to be scrupulously clean for this - so everyone sitting at the table is a shill, placed there before the shop opened to "hold" the trick table and keep the top clean.

So now you know. Loses the magic a bit when you know, doesn't it?

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There are a lot of cutaways to look at the astonished audience just at the right time, or the camera moves behind somebody to "get a better view" and Dynamo is hidden briefly from view by the person's back. I find it intensely annoying.

But it still looks amazing.
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Old 16th Jul 2013, 21:14   #15 (permalink)


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Drawing in a box . . .

He’s very good. It’s great entertainment and worth a look (if you watch TV).
Sometimes there are some small clues with the films.

Sorry to disappoint you Mr. Anotherthing:

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This is the chap who once sent a box to the BBC then told Greg James a few days later (Radio one DJ) to go out and buy a newspaper (any one) and to find a story on it he liked. He was to circle the story.

Dynamo then arrived for an interview. The box stayed in the posession of the Greg James' assistant during the interview. At the end, Dynamo asked him (James) to show him the newspaper story he had chosen. He then left the studio telling them, as he left, to open the box.

Inside was a sheet of A4 with a handrawn representation of the story Greg James had chosen from a random paper, along with skethes of the 2 photos in the story, along with other side stories on the same page...
This is the chap who once sent a box to the BBC then told Greg James a few days later (Radio one DJ) to go out and buy a newspaper (any one) and to find a story on it he liked. He was to circle the story.
That was great, and had me convinced that this was really something.

Then I saw a different video take (which was not on general release). As the DJ was broadcasting live and desperately trying to open the red box, you could hear some studio-bimbo (assistant??) chirp up "if you can’t get it open, . . . we’ve got a spare key". Ohh!!

Wonder if she’s still employed at the radio station? She probably shouldn’t have done that . . . .
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This is cool!


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The phone in a bottle - the bottle is cut open and the phone placed inside before hand. The guy who hands over the phone is a shill. The only trick is to distract while you swap the empty bottle handed to you for the bottle with the phone in it. The phone which is handed to you is whipped up the sleeve by an apparatus you can buy in any magic shop.
As far as Dynamo is concerned, the trick is a little different. The guy with the phone is not a shill but what you don't see is that Dynamo has spent a few minutes with him doing other tricks. During this time his phone is taken and swapped for a dummy copy while his real phone is put in the fake bottle, by an accomplice, as described. Check carefully and you can see Dynamo throw the fake phone into a large pocket inside his coat just as he is about to slam it into the bottle. The bottle has been switched and already has the real phone inside.

Paul Daniels, whatever you may think of him, is a world class illusionist. He has always said that there are only 7 basic types of trick and all others are just variations on these types. The skill is in being able to think up new and exciting variations and then be able to show them with consummate skill that leaves your audience scratching their heads. This is where Dynamo is good - fresh ideas and great skills and showmanship.
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when I saw Dynamo , I was stunned,baffled and entertained.
Don't know how he did his stunts, but the execution was awesome....he earns his money!

regarding Paul Daniels,- I always think of the wickedly funny "Mrs Merton" , interviewing his assistant ,whom he'd recently wed.

"so, Debbie Mc. Gee,- what first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels ?" Brilliant!
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Old 12th Aug 2013, 06:38   #19 (permalink)


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Dynamos tricks revealed

Hey i just found an awesome tutorial on Dynamo's tricks. Although i must say im a little disappointed finding out that he uses plants and stooges in a lot of his tricks oh well.

Here's the dynamo magician revealed page
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