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Old 30th May 2012, 23:52   #1 (permalink)
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Worlds in Collision

Why Earth is not an ice ball: Possible explanation for faint young sun paradox


This snippet of news made me mindful of a book I read when I was still young.


Worlds in Collision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I wonder if we'll ever know just what happened.
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Old 31st May 2012, 00:12   #2 (permalink)
 
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Genesis 1 answers these questions
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If you are serious, can you please provide an example (or two) of how Genesis answers these questions?

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Old 31st May 2012, 01:49   #4 (permalink)
 
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning —the first day.
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Must be true then...

A bit of thread drift....
The word and appears 51696 times in the Bible
40975 in the Old Testament
10721 in the New Testament.
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Old 31st May 2012, 02:36   #6 (permalink)
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Old 31st May 2012, 02:38   #7 (permalink)
 
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14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years,
15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so.
16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.
17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth,
18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good.

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Old 31st May 2012, 04:13   #10 (permalink)
 
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Critter - it does answer the questions, it's just if you find the answers good enough for you.
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the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night
and the lesser light isn't enough to power solar batteries. As I got to know yesterday (hadn't occurred to wonder earlier). Weird, moonlight seems light enough on bright nights, still not enough.
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Old 31st May 2012, 04:47   #11 (permalink)

 
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He also made the stars.
If Marilyn Monroe, Ava Gardner and Jane Russell are any guide
he certainly knew how to build 'em right!

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Regarding Worlds in Collision - the 1950 scientific community
handling of the Velikovsky affair was a bloody affront to the
name of Science - to denigrate rather than disprove without
passion. Harlow Shapley was a disgrace and I sincerely hope
the Galactic Centre will never be named after him. If he was
alive now he'd fit in well with the "scientific rationale" that
permeates pseudosciences such as global warming.

EVERYTHING in Science is permitted to be questioned and any
hypothesis has the right to be postulated no matter how off-
color or outlandish it appears. If it is disproven (which Sagan
did in the Velikovsky case but instead used the true method
of scientific endeavor to separate fact from absurdity) then it
can be safely tossed in the bin - but definitely not before.
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Thanks for the quotes.

Do you believe what is written in Genesis is the literal truth (as opposed to an attempt by wise men of the time to explain natural phenomena that were not able to be scientifically explained or understood at that time)?
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Old 31st May 2012, 07:02   #13 (permalink)
 
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And God said, “Let there be light,”
......and you could see for fckuing miles!
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I'm sorry but someone is quoting from a "happy clappy" modern version of the book.[stake, firewood, rope, flint'n'tinder time for these heretic peddlers of modern versions]

it should be :
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


ALSO... is that the word "and" in italics appears so many times or just the word "and" both in & not in itallics. because there's a difference between "and" in italics and "and" not in italics

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As I understand it the phrase.
'Let there be light'
was in fact written by a Englishman called Miles Coverdale.
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Christopher Hitchins would have had something urbane to say about that. Editting a bible quote? Heresy for sure.
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Nah. I do it all the time. Now, if I could type stuff right the first time...
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We are stardust, we are golden...

“Every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. And, the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand. It really is the most poetic thing I know about physics: You are all stardust. You couldn’t be here if stars hadn’t exploded, because the elements - the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution and for life - weren’t created at the beginning of time. They were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars, and the only way for them to get into your body is if those stars were kind enough to explode. So, forget Jesus. The stars died so that you could be here today.”

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Not knocking religion (any one of them) but I kind of feel awed by the knowledge we are gleaning and if people want to equate a singularity with God then so be it but I prefer the science.

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Science has many paradoxes, the Word has none.
Caco - you in awe of God's work, me as well every day.

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Science has many paradoxes but I have yet to find anything that when considered in the light of reason does not have some paradoxical elements including the "Word"!

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