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Old 24th Apr 2012, 18:18   #1 (permalink)
 
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Asteroid mining

There's been quite a bit of news coverage on this of late:

BBC News - Plans for asteroid mining emerge

Is this yet another scheme to relieve some overblown billionaires of their cash?

Interested to hear what the great technical minds on PPRuNe think of this venture. I wonder if it could be worth the risk given how valuable they say these asteroids are.

Perhaps we could devise our own scheme and attempt to divert an asteroid towards Earth, hoping of course it doesn't trigger another ice age and kill millions..
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 18:23   #2 (permalink)
 
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Yeah great isn't it. We could go out there, bring an asteroid back, and mine it - all Planet Earth's problems solved.

If, that is, we had some "spaceships".

Which we don't.

What HAVE these guys been smoking ?!?!?!
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 19:23   #3 (permalink)
 
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Pie in the sky,we barely have the ability to get humans into low earth orbit never mind mining asteroids,just another feckwit announcement that will come to naught.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 19:30   #4 (permalink)
 
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The mining most likely would be done by probes and machines, remotely controlled. Humans most likely not on the surface.


Hmm, no real life replay of "Outland." Not sure if that's good or bad.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 19:38   #5 (permalink)
 
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But what happens to the miner if one of these little creatures is hiding behind the asteroid????

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Old 24th Apr 2012, 19:44   #6 (permalink)
 
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Dont see any possible economic justification for it,we are still sitting on billions of tons of metal ores and minerals here without leaving this mudball,unless they find one made from solid gold,anyway I doubt if there is much in the way of metals in the asteroids,if there was they wouldn't be way out there beyond Mars they would have formed a planet closer in.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 20:22   #7 (permalink)
 
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We can get a rubber chicken up to 120,000ft, - we're nearly there!
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 20:32   #8 (permalink)
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Dan Dare should have had this sorted by now!
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 20:37   #9 (permalink)
 
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unless they find one made from solid gold

Love to see what that'd do to the gold price down here.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 20:49   #10 (permalink)
 
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Come now... If Bruce Willis can do it I'm sure he'll give us some tips...
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 21:13   #11 (permalink)
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Excellent, jobs for the long term unemployed, my father, a POW WW2, was forced into the mines in Poland, send them there, and don't relieve them till their quotas filled.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 21:15   #12 (permalink)
 
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Oft thought when the world was forming and was a red hot molten ball all the heavy metal would have sunk toward the center ergo there must be a large sphere of pure molten gold right in the center of the earth surrounded by another nickle nickle iron sphere,and its a lot closer than any asteroid.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 21:26   #13 (permalink)
 
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Argentina has staked claim to any asteroid that comes within 3 light years of their borders.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 22:57   #14 (permalink)
 
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Excellent science fiction movie on the subject.

Moon (2009) - IMDb

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Old 24th Apr 2012, 23:07   #15 (permalink)
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Come now... If Bruce Willis can do it I'm sure he'll give us some tips...
Huh! Beat me to it.

I reckon we should mine gold from the moon, but just make coins there.

We could find one astronaut bartering with another for a new moon buggy or some such, but being frustrated by not being able to get the coins out of their pockets, cos of having fat fingers.


What they do want to know is what RNA / DNA type stuff might be in them. It seems the framework for such a structure is now much more likely to occur naturally in the heavens than previously thought. Might be able to get some, feed it into mice cells, and get creatures that can design fjords.



Apologies to Douglass Adams.
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 00:37   #16 (permalink)
 
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Be interesting to see how a mine would operate in a near zero gravity situation, would they just dig straight down and throw everything out the top?
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 00:45   #17 (permalink)
 
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There are TONNES (hahahaha!) of materials that are very important to our modern life on earth, that are in VERY short supply here on our little planet....off the top of my head I have read of materials needed in jet engines, batteries, electronics, medical devices, cell phones, etc. that are quite difficult to come by.

Afghanistan may have some of this material, which may be good for them.

Asteroids are chock full of the stuff...I think most of it we find on earth came from asteroid strikes in the past.

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Mining rare earths from asteroids would be enormously expensive, at first. But the effort could help to start a transition toward developing space industries. In time, we could see many industrial operations running in space, using virtually free solar energy, while our world becomes cleaner and greener: a residential zone, with industry moving off our planet.
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Some near-Earth asteroids contain platinum group metals in much higher concentrations than the richest Earth mines. In space, a single platinum-rich 500 meter wide asteroid contains about 174 times the yearly world output of platinum, and 1.5 times the known world-reserves of platinum group metals (ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium, iridium, and platinum). This amount is enough to fill a basketball court to four times the height of the rim. By contrast, all of the platinum group metals mined to date in history would not reach waist-high on that same basketball court.
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Asteroids also contain more common metallic elements such as iron, nickel, and cobalt, sometimes in incredible quantities. In addition to water, other volatiles, such as nitrogen, CO, CO2, and methane, exist in quantities sufficient to warrant extraction and utilization.
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 06:15   #18 (permalink)

 
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I was just thinking (which I know I shouldn't do too much) -
why not bring the asteroid to Earth orbit? It would cut down
on transport costs for both the ore and mining prisoners.

Send a robot ship to evaluate the metal potential. If it works
out feasable dispatch an "engine" ship. This ship - being an
engine unto itself, burrows into the asteroid with its exhaust
sticking out. The engine is controlled from Earth. A few twists
of the gamestick and throttle and so jockey it from its present
position into Earth orbit.

As prev suggested the asteroid could become a penal mining
prison/gulag, and terraforming it into a cold habitat with lots
of snow and ice would also be a nice touch!

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Old 25th Apr 2012, 08:12   #19 (permalink)
 
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How would they mine them? Wouldn't all the mined pieces fall off the edge and what would happen if the drill got stuck, would the Asteroid start spinning?
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 08:19   #20 (permalink)

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Have better luck mining Hemorrhoids than Asteroids!
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