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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 21:19   #1 (permalink)
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See this website pointing out the management failings in North East Lincolnshire Council.

Could do with a few more of these...
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 22:06   #2 (permalink)
 
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Ian Hislop's organ, Private Eye has been running a page named Rotten Boroughs for some time its rather insightful.
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 22:21   #3 (permalink)
 
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That Rotten Boroughs page has been running for years. There has hardly been a Council in the land that hasn't been shown up at some time, and some have been repeatedly exposed.
It can be depressing to read Private Eye because the same corruption goes on year after year. It seems to be endemic and unending.
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The only proven method of stemming corruption is to separate people from money. Once you understand this, you will be at peace.
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The only proven method of stemming corruption is to separate people from money.
You're a Socialist then..
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 22:40   #6 (permalink)
 
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That Rotten Boroughs page has been running for years. There has hardly been a Council in the land that hasn't been shown up at some time, and some have been repeatedly exposed.
It can be depressing to read Private Eye because the same corruption goes on year after year. It seems to be endemic and unending.
indeed sally, and sometimes the same name, cropping up at different councils under different schemes.

it makes me laugh when people in the UK pontificate about african corruption.
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 22:40   #7 (permalink)
 
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You're a Socialist then..
Nope. merely an observation on human nature. I've just made another, but if you understood it, you probably wouldn't like it.
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Old 22nd Apr 2012, 23:27   #8 (permalink)
 
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See this website pointing out the management failings in North East Lincolnshire Council.
Didn't see the imprint - looks potentially dodgy to me, during an election. (I've got just one page with political content on my web site and the agent, quite correctly, insisted that I include a proper legal imprint.)
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We've got this one in North Surrey, slightly less sensational than the Grimsby one.
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No different in NZ. It is " alleged " that our Mayor will make a personal gain from a new rating system that he is trying to introduce - bulldoze through, more like - and he steadfastly refuses to admit or deny this. No answer is a good enough answer for me.

At a public meeting last week about the proposals, he told me to sit down and shut up my loud mouth, and later that I was a " disreputable old bugger "

Old ? Yes. Bugger ? Negotiable. Disreputable ? probably defamatory.

Wots new ?
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 07:53   #11 (permalink)
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The transcripts of correspondance on that website are interesting. I find, when dealing with the council, that the advice proffered by C Parkinson (of Parkinson's Law fame) in his book "Bureaucrats, and How to Annoy Them" comes in very useful.

Being fed up with trying to get our local council officials to deal with fly-tipping, graffiti, litter, binge drinking in the town centre (at 10am!), dog mess and other assorted things that they are responsible for and have the powers to deal with, I am standing in this year's local election. With a bit of luck, someone may try to corrupt me.
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I am standing in this year's local election
That's the way to to do it! Even if you lose it at least gives you the right to moan about the council, which right people who never even vote in local elections simply do not have.
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With a bit of luck, someone may try to corrupt me.
I fear you may be disappointed: it's never happened to me in all my years on the council, not even now that I am formally responsible for planning policy decisions that affect whether developers may or may not build hundreds of houses. Yes, people sidle up to me and start talking about bits of land that they want taken out of the green belt, but I've never been offered any bribes

Having said which I think I might be getting some free beer from CAMRA tonight ... however having thought about this very carefully I have decided that it is not a bribe and that it's OK to accept the invitation, provided of course that I file the hospitality form afterwards.
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 08:56   #13 (permalink)
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All of which helps to prove that the best form of government is by a very benevolent dictator.
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But unfortunately they never stay benevolent for very long. Thay say that even Mugabe was relatively benign to start with.
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Thay say that even Mugabe was relatively benign to start with.
Yes, I have a Zim. friend who says they supported him in preference to Joshua Nkomo, at the time
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Yup, must have been a whole two years before he began killing off his enemies Nkomo's mob). Wonder how it would have gone had the popular choice Muzorewa had the support of the West?
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Hi

am the owner of the site mentioned at the top ad i can assure you theres nothing dodgy about it. I have been running it since 2009. Am in the process of doing one for every council in the country,

am interested in showing the data that the council try and hide.

for anyone interested in that type of thing, the whatdotheyknow website is a great source of info.

Anyhow, what good fortune to get my site mentioned on hear, i have been a reader for a while. I am not a pilot but i have a deep interest in flight, i Fly RC planes for years ( FPVing ). Bult a few of my own. even a fully functional drone ( or pilot assist systems to keep it legal in the UK )

This si a grate site for getting an understanding behind arcraft failures thats not reported on the news. what an honor to get my tiny whiney website mentioned on here.

Hay, that reminds me, your pilots, i hope none of you are replying using your phones or fondleslab while flying. . .
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 10:46   #18 (permalink)
 
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am the owner of the site mentioned at the top ad i can assure you theres nothing dodgy about it
A site which could be construed as taking sides in the election currently under way should carry a proper imprint. I didn't read your site in enough detail to form an opion as to whether it's necessary in this case, but you will no doubt have taken your own legal advice.
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My council had a substantial amount of cash ,about £1500 I think,go AWOL between the parking machines and the bank.Each dept in between blamed the other for it's disappearance and it was eventually written off.
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hi

understood, I dont put much up about the local elections, I think anyone should ignore party politics when voting in local elections, people need to get there head around the fact that your voting in people to help manage a substantial business in you local council. Instead, people vote for those with the best talk.


Imaging if pilots were picked the same way.


You load all your passengers on the plane, then say, lets vote for whos flying.


Pilots both says, I will


I have experience in flying this plane, am trianed and qualifed




Passenger who’s either ex gov employee, failed businessman, ex banker ect ect, Says, that sounds like an easy well paid job.


I have a long experience in dealing with hollistic applications and am fully trained in people skills, time management and I once played on a flight slim. Vote for me and I will make you plane go faster, better , longer and cheeper ( ignoring physics ). ----- By they way, do you get a parachute if you volunteer to be the pilot.


You would have planes going down as fast as council budgets.


Although the crash investigations would be simmilar


In local government, they blame the public for every mistake, until its absolulty proved that its not the public. Then they address the systems mistakes.




In flying, they seem to blame the pilot for everything, until its proved absolulty not there fault, frozen pilot tubes comes to mind.
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