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Old 1st Jan 2013, 03:14   #3781 (permalink)
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Saw on TV this morning that Keating, when Finance Minister, wanted to introduce GST!
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 04:21   #3782 (permalink)
 
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And Bob'awke thinks we should abolish the states to achieve the Fabian dream of one Big Brother (or sister...shudder!) watching over us all.

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There is no federal government without the States. If anything has to go it should be the farce that is Canberra.

Isn't it time he retired? Someone sit him in a rocking chair with a copy of the constitution, it's about time he read that instead of Orwell.
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 05:53   #3783 (permalink)
 
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And Bob'awke thinks we should abolish the states to achieve the Fabian dream of one Big Brother (or sister...shudder!) watching over us all.
I think that's been the dream of every Australian PM and federal Treasurer since federation. Ain't gonna make it happen though.

Watching the three pollies and fawning crowds at Woodford Folk Festival on TV and Facebook has been very enlightening; it reminds me never to go near the bloody thing. None of them ever seem to want to rock Soundwave, of course it's a slightly tougher crowd in every respect .

Maybe Gillard, Hawke and Turnbull could form a band...

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Old 1st Jan 2013, 08:38   #3784 (permalink)
 
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What is it about ex-pollies of the Labour persuasion that compels them to get their heads on the telly as often as possible to tell us how good they were? Then again, why does our meeja let 'em?
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 08:57   #3785 (permalink)

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In fairness CSD, if I see Malcolm Fraser popping up with his 2 cents worth again, I'll scream!

Considering they are on the public payroll still, I'd be happy if they just accepted that with thanks & STFU!!!
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 10:17   #3786 (permalink)
 
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And Amen to that!

I reckon Malcolm has turned left in his old age.
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 11:03   #3787 (permalink)
 
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Could be on to something here, dementia leads to Labor. Although, to be fair ... oh never mind.
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 13:27   #3788 (permalink)
 
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Years ago a friend of mine proposed starting a National Nuisance 'award' scheme, similar but inverse to the National Living Treasure award scheme for successful and respected Australians.

It was for people who;
1. failed to recognise their increasing irrelevance to public debate because they were senile / boring / deadset stupid,

2. People who insisted on commenting about issues that were completely removed from their expertise (such as supermodels waxing lyrical about agricultural practices or pollies yakking on about Kabuki theatre), and

3. People who obviously spent every waking hour either appearing in media stories or organising their next appearance in a media story.

Once a person was declared a National Nuisance they would be prohibited from appearing in any media article or reality tv show, going on the lecture circuit, becoming a professional new shopping centre opener and all the other stuff faded media tarts feed from.

We came up with quite a comprehensive list, including Hawke, Fraser, Hanson, Rudd, Qld's Peter Beattie and Jim Soorley. We also had a celebutard list that started with Lara Bingle.

I reckon it could work.

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Old 1st Jan 2013, 22:43   #3789 (permalink)
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People who insisted on commenting about issues that were completely removed from their expertise.
Given that from her public comments on every subject I've ever heard her pronounce and pontificate upon, she fills the criterion above to a 'T', may I nominate Sarah Hansenhypentwodads as the first contemporary nominee?

Malcolm Fraser and Paul Keating would be close to the top in the very highly populated 'has beens' category.
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 22:52   #3790 (permalink)
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Worrals, another category might be:

"Any ex union official who, having ripped off their union mates for several years have reached a level of dishonesty and corruption that qualifies them to be parachuted into an ALP seat and rise to high office in a Labour government".......?
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 23:06   #3791 (permalink)
 
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Labor start the new year with the same traditions of dishonesty, deceit & untruthfulness.

Jenny (Useless?) Macklin says she "of course I can live on the dole" however the official transcript from her office says her comments `inaudible'. Later clarified that that a nearby vehicle made the mobile phone transcript inaudible.

The TV footage is very clear and concise with no nearby vehicle audible.

This is a deceitful act, is dishonest and whilst the Minister may not have said directly her comment is inaudible (that is, she was untruthful however, someone with in her office was) the actions & responsibility for actions within or from her office stop with her/are her responsibility!

It is going to be a great year!

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Old 1st Jan 2013, 23:11   #3792 (permalink)
 
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A HOMELESS nomad who spends most of the year wandering overseas has won the right to keep his welfare payment after arguing his pension goes further in South-East Asia than in Australia.
The 62-year-old's disability pension was initially cancelled in March because he did not have a fixed address in Australia, did not meet the residential requirements needed for the payment and spent two-thirds of the year overseas.
The man, who suffers from schizophrenia, has lived a nomadic lifestyle for decades and has been receiving the pension since April 1984.
For the past 10 years he has spent most of his time roaming Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Singapore, Laos, China and Vietnam; countries where he is able to survive on his pension.
Now, the Administrative Appeals Tribunal has overturned the departmental decision to cut his pension, ruling he needed to travel overseas because of his dire poverty.
"His travel overseas is linked to the difficulties he has faced as a homeless person in Australia and his current lack of assets," the AAT ruled
"He does not travel to one country in South-East Asia but moves around. The applicant says he travels to South-East Asia mainly because this enables him to get a room with a TV and airconditioning together with three meals a day and some beer money within the tight parameters of the pension payment.
"The applicant is unable to afford accommodation in Australia on his pension."
When he is in Australia he moves around frequently but considers campsites around Darwin his home base and avoids Melbourne and Sydney because of the cooler weather.
He told the tribunal he hoped an inheritance from his 100-year-old mother would enable him to buy a caravan.
"The applicant considers Australia his home. Although the applicant's home base is a series of sites on Aboriginal land and a number of informal arrangements (including staying with friends, family or camping) and although he is homeless, this does not mean he has no connection with Australia," the AAT ruled.
What drugs are these numpties smoking??!! I object to my taxes funding someone's overseas travel. I don't care how fcuking schizophrenic he is. Further evidence that the welfare culture in this country is pretty well out of control. Small wonder boatloads of "refugees" are risking life and limb to get here and get onto Centrelink ASAP.
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 23:31   #3793 (permalink)
 
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Capt Sand Dune, I had a very similar reaction this morning when I heard the interview on AM with the man running the detention centre on Manus Island. The touchy-feelie bullsh1t he was sprouting leaves me even more convinced that the "asylum seekers" under his care see us as fools to be exploited to the fullest extent.p
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 01:21   #3794 (permalink)
 
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Jenny (Useless?) Macklin says she "of course I can live on the dole"
If it wasn't for the gold plated pension then she might well be having to come the election aftermath.

I'm already giving the baseball bat a going over with linseed oil in delicious anticipation
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 02:13   #3795 (permalink)

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he needed to travel overseas because of his dire poverty
So, are we going to roumd up all the beggars & send them overseas for a better lifestyle? Is this an opportunity for us to swap "refugees" for the homeless?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 02:42   #3796 (permalink)
 
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http://bl*gs.news.com.au/dailytelegr...few_stupidity/

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WHY did The Star casino spend upwards of $600,000 to fly Leonardo DiCaprio and pals to Sydney for New Year’s Eve?

The only good thing to come out of the exercise in celebrity pandering was that it highlighted the absurdity of Sydney airport’s archaic curfew - but more of that later.
Sydney airport's curfew is a hot potato I don't think either Party/'Pardee' could touch in a constructive way without losing votes on a grand scale.

Pity we couldn't borrow the idea of offshore airports from the Japanese and build the runway(s) in the oggin - like in the middle of Botany Bay? - and use the existing land for a decent sized terminal.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 02:42   #3797 (permalink)
 
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... and car parking.
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"Any ex union official who, having ripped off their union mates for several years have reached a level of dishonesty and corruption that qualifies them to be parachuted into an ALP seat and rise to high office in a Labour government".......?
I suppose if they wrote a book about it they'd be eligible...
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Pity we couldn't borrow the idea of offshore airports from the Japanese and build the runway(s) in the oggin - like in the middle of Botany Bay? - and use the existing land for a decent sized terminal.
A great plan that will simply descend into the usual 'we no afford to payy' catfight between both levels of government, the airport corporation and the airlines.
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"Any ex union official who, having ripped off their union mates for several years have reached a level of dishonesty and corruption that qualifies them to be parachuted into an ALP seat and rise to high office in a Labour government".......?

If we substitute "union official" with "state premier" and "union mates" with "state taxpayers" then that could be a sub-catagory of the above....
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 06:54   #3800 (permalink)
 
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Release of the 1984 Cabinet papers has bob'orke suggesting abolition of the States...

1984... + 5 = 198-...

Does that mean we have only five years to wait to see what was going on behind closed doors in Federal Cabinet in "that year we dare not mention here"?

I'm sure there'll be a number here who'll be very interested in learning what went on between bob'orke and his Cabinet colleagues then. Not that I imagine the real decisions in that little matter were ever decided by Cabinet. My guess is that Jabba the Hutt just told bob'orke how it was going to be and bob'orke jumped to comply, so there's probably no record of how those decisions were reached or who - if anyone - objected to what many older Ppruners would think were rather extraordinary Government decisions.
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