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Old 31st Dec 2011, 17:00   #101 (permalink)

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SFFP/Duckbutt or whoever,again I have no idea of what you are talking about with this thing and now you are talking about 2008 (I can only think that this is a result of some over indulgent Christmas cheer)
Happy New Year Lobey!
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Old 31st Dec 2011, 17:17   #102 (permalink)

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Warr loathed him and was reputed to have said “he will never win a Grand Prix as long as I have a hole in my arse”.
The remark came after NM requested a different spec. brake be fitted to his car. Warr refused and NM parked the car with no brakes halfway through the race IIRC

NM went on to become world Champion and Warr managed to kill off the best F1 team ever IMHO. NM might be a 100% awkward SOB but he did have bursts of brilliance. Remember him trying to push his car over the finish line at Dallas in 1984 to finish sixth?
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 16:46   #103 (permalink)
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Rubie not yet out . . .

BBC - Andrew Benson: Barrichello back in Williams frame
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 17:03   #104 (permalink)
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Don't forget that besides F1 and IndyCar, NM won a BTTC race at Donnington in the rain after starting at the back of the grid. He's one of the most exciting drivers the sport has ever seen.
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 19:47   #105 (permalink)
 
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More re Mansell (and I realise this thread is 'F1', but the picture must be fairly painted). This is an edited comment (but only to make it stand-alone)

The Newman/Haas car was unreliable in 1994, and results suffered. It was during this season that Mansell "wore out his welcome" in the United States with glimpses of rude behavior, particularly after he was knocked out of the Indianapolis 500. After the crash, he stormed out of the track hospital, and refused medical care. When a reporter asked Mansell if he had spoken with Dennis Vitolo, the driver who had crashed into him, Mansell replied, "you speak to him." Subsequently, Mansell was set to sign autographs at a K-mart (the primary sponsor of his car), but due to a lack of demand, the event was cancelled. Mansell was also the catalyst for the breakdown in the relationship between himself and Mario Andretti. Mario has since remarked "I guess if Ronnie Peterson was the best team-mate I ever had, Nigel Mansell was the worst" and "I had a lot of respect for him as a driver, but not as a man"
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 20:19   #106 (permalink)
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Don't forget that it was only this year that NM's record number of poles in one season was beaten by Vettel. That means that Schumacher in all of his championship years couldn't do it. I first saw Mansell in F1 at Brands Hatch in 1986 and he won it. I have driven the circuit (Indy, not the full F1 loop) in a 930 turbo and the double apex off camber at Paddock Hill had me doing the sixpence to dustbin lid routine. Going round in an F1 turbo while beating Senna, Prost etc. takes huge cojones.

Yes, he can have a spat with the best of them but unlike his peers, I don't think he ever ran anyone off the road. His chase with Senna at Monaco 1992 was a lesson in driving and he was all over the back of the Maclaren like a rash. NM had led for the first 70 laps and lost the lead after a puncture. Senna overtook and held him off for the remainder of the race and after crossing the line, NM had to be lifted from the car as he was physically spent. I have never seen a driver so close to passing out.

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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 21:10   #107 (permalink)
 
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NM won a BTTC race at Donnington in the rain after starting at the back of the grid........
Are you sure about that? I can't find any reference to Nigel Mansell ever winning a BTCC race.
Donnington 1998 (round 12) he started 19th, drove superbly in the wet, led for a while, but finished 4th, and was subsequently placed 5th after a 1.8sec penalty for overtaking during a safety car period.
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Not sure exactly where or when but I think it was an Italian circuit.

Mansell goes left to pass and gets elbowed onto the grass.

Soon as the wheels are off the track he does a 360 degree spin.

Seconds later, he is back on the track at full chat having only lost a couple of car lengths!

Bit of a whinger perhaps, but in his day he was the one you watched GP for, much as Rossi in MotoGP.
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Mansell had a spectacular off at Bridge on the Cas Don circuit shortly after retiring from F1. A Ford Cosworth if memory serves.

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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 22:06   #110 (permalink)
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Mansell had a spectacular off at Bridge on the Cas Don circuit shortly after retiring from F1.
I remember that!
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 22:09   #111 (permalink)
 
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NM

Statistically the best British GP driver ever. As a man, well?

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Warr was right about him...
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NM

Statistically the best British GP driver ever.
Thats all that really counts to top level sportsfolk, what a few who are not fit to lace their boots think is as relevant to them as the cost of Gouda in Tesco's
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 23:38   #113 (permalink)

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Mansell had a spectacular off at Bridge on the Cas Don circuit shortly after retiring from F1
IIRC at aninterview afterwards he was a bit rude about his fellow racers not allowing him to take the lead
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Old 6th Jan 2012, 13:21   #114 (permalink)
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Spekesoftly, you are indeed correct and I doff my hat in your general direction sir.

It has however been described as the best ever race in BTCC (I will spell it correctly this time).

Nigel Mansell stars in the best race in BTCC history
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Thats all that really counts to top level sportsfolk
Thank God for people like Sir Stirling Moss and even Chris Amon then...

As for Mansell he can lace his own Gouda smelling boots...

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Old 6th Jan 2012, 21:34   #116 (permalink)
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BBC Sport - Future of Valencia Grand Prix in doubt
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Old 8th Jan 2012, 13:26   #117 (permalink)
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I doubt it'll be missed, it was always a yawnfest.
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Old 8th Jan 2012, 14:37   #118 (permalink)

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Le Castellet to alternate with Spa ? Swappping the hopeless Spanish industrial estate for a French one is a good move? I wonder if it is because the owner and his friends can lland their private jets there?
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the track was sold to Excelis, a company owned by Formula One promoter Bernie Ecclestone, in 1999
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Old 8th Jan 2012, 14:50   #119 (permalink)
 
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I doubt it'll be missed, it was always a yawnfest.
Not if you remove three of the wheels:


Nudge this one on to approximately 4mins 10secs:


RIP Marco Simonchelli.
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Old 8th Jan 2012, 14:59   #120 (permalink)
 
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...and if the racing is dull, you can always fall in love with lucky b@st@rd Stoner's wife, Adriana.

...but I already have and I'm first in the queue, OK

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