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Old 2nd Dec 2011, 13:37   #21 (permalink)
 
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Spanish woman racer Maria de Villota has an agreement to be the Lotus (formerly Renault) team's reserve driver next season.
She's stuffed if they introduce overtaking.
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Ferrari throw toys out of pram, leave FOTA (waiting to hear what RBR say their reasons are).


Ferrari confirms departure from the Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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A bit more on that

BBC Sport - Ferrari and Red Bull leave Fota
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Ah, so its not just a Red Car spat
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No, sffp, it wasn't just a red car spat. I thought that was clear when I said that I was waiting to see what RBR's reasons were.
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Old 3rd Dec 2011, 10:17   #26 (permalink)

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Spanish woman racer Maria de Villota has an agreement to be the Lotus (formerly Renault) team's reserve driver next season.
She can hardly do worse than her father
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Despite being in an identical car MW could not catch SV all season long and even then not UNTIL he had a gearbox problem in the last race
Sure SFFP,how exactly can you prove that?

Did McLaren ever take a front wing of JBs car and put it on Lewis' car?

Identical car..yeah right if you believe in the Easter bunny

At least JB in an identical car beat Lewis fair and square (and is probably paid a lot less as well but not for long hopefully)
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I'm amused that many on here assume that RBR and in particular SV will win the title again next year.. I'm sure I heard an article on radio the other day that JB scored more points than SV in the 2nd half of the season.. I'd say the 2012 title could be close run.. That said RBR are already in the build phase of the new car..
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Sure SFFP,how exactly can you prove that?

As MW actually did finish above SV in Germany I obviously cant but the comment achieved it's aim

Did McLaren ever take a front wing of JBs car and put it on Lewis' car?

Why would they, two former World Champions driving, as you so correctly pointed out identical cars, can't see the point

Identical car..yeah right if you believe in the Easter bunny

Identical cars but sadly only one World Champion driver which does make the team decision making process a little easier

At least JB in an identical car beat Lewis fair and square (and is probably paid a lot less as well but not for long hopefully)
If you think "wing gate" is the only reason for MW's poor showing this past 2 seasons then perhaps you are not quite as F1 knowledgable as I originally thought
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I'm sure I heard an article on radio the other day that JB scored more points than SV in the 2nd half of the season
I didn't watch any of the 2011 season, but could it be that SV was pacing himself? Fangio used to race on the basis of winning at the slowest possible speed; any faster was more risk for no gain. Was SV maybe applying that wisdom to his season? Just a suggestion.

Not that SV is in any way, shape or form comparable to Fangio; except that SV is indisputably far more accomplished at being intolerably annoying when he wins.
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Fangio used to race on the basis of winning at the slowest possible speed; any faster was more risk for no gain
IIRC it was Fangio who lifted right off entering L' Eau Rouge and avoided running into the back of an accident that had just occured.
He gave the reason that he had only seen the sides of heads, instead of faces, in the stands and realised that something had happened up the hill. That's quick reaction


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I'm sure I heard an article on radio the other day that JB scored more points than SV in the 2nd half of the season
Just a question. In 2009, JB won the WDC. Which team/driver took more points in that season than JB after, say, Turkey (from Silverstone onwards)?
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McLaren obviously played a good game of catchup especially with their best driver coming second in the championship doing much better in the second half of the season.

The Red Bull car designed by AN was obviously the class of the field but with time McLaren caught up to some extentas they did the year before.If AN can do it again and maximise his car with the new regs then Vettel would have to be odds on to win again.

The best McLaren could hope for is for JB to do another sterling job as he did this year and hope that Ferrari do not have a competitive car because Alonso in a car that was clearly not as good as the McLaren still beat Lewis.

If Alonso is in a car anywhere near as good as the others it will be a good season.
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If Alonso is in a car anywhere near as good as the others it will be a good season.
Stick him in a Red Bull alongside SV, that will get the best out of both the cars all season long
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That'd be even more interesting if the Red Bull culture had the same effect on Alonso that McLaren did in 2007. The petulant dummy-spitting was a right old laugh and a half.

My opinion of Alonso still hasn't recovered.
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So will the BBC be keeping Coulthard as main commentator? I hope so as I think he is actually quite good. Shame to lose Brundle but c'est la vie, he was awful when he started, anyone remember that program he did? Was it "Great Escapes" or something...
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US and Bahrain still on next season (at the moment!)
BBC Sport - US & Bahrain grands prix remain in unchanged 2012 calendar
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So will the BBC be keeping Coulthard as main commentator?
James Hunt was one of the best.

Even today, he's still way better than Coulthard.
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