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Old 15th May 2011, 11:56   #201 (permalink)
 
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Parabellum is quite correct. The ban came from Clarence House after the original contracts were written, and caused the ABC to cancel the Chaser's satirical commentary. Cause of some annoyance down 'ere. Press group slams axing of Chaser's royal show - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Old 15th May 2011, 12:12   #202 (permalink)
 
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I don't think he is. The article quoted refers to a narrow agreement between the BBC & Clarence house. The totality of media does not end at those two organistaions.
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Old 15th May 2011, 12:26   #203 (permalink)
 
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The revisions led the BBC to threaten to block the ABC - host to The Chaser - from any wedding coverage if it did not comply.
so the ABC were effectively censored by the BBC.
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Old 15th May 2011, 12:34   #204 (permalink)
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I said, "I think you will find"..

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Show us your ordinance Parabellum, I would really, really like to see it.
As quoted by Henry, but that is a minor part here, the bottom line is we don't allow our Monarchy to be mocked by the mass media, particularly on a special day.
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Old 15th May 2011, 12:42   #205 (permalink)
 
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we don't allow our Monarchy to be mocked by the mass media
Then I guess you don't read Private Eye, watch HIGNFY, any number of other panel shows on the BBC, Channel four, Sky, Alison Jackson...
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Old 15th May 2011, 12:48   #206 (permalink)
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............on a special day...............
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Old 15th May 2011, 12:52   #207 (permalink)
 
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I agree it would be distasteful PB, yet that is not quite what you said is it? The implication being criticism of the Royal Family is not permitted here. It is & long may it be so.
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I agree with Parapunter that the British are permitted to speak our minds "without let or hindrance" about the Royal Family. This is demonstrated by the examples he quotes, i.e. Private Eye, HIGNFY, Alison Jackson's lookalike imagery, and many TV programmes shown on our screens.

But I doubt very much whether the family enjoy being the butt of the irreverent humour propagated by these sections of the UK's hoi polloi. It seems more likely to me that they simply accept the principle of "better the devil you know" in this respect. At least the perpetrators are a known quantity, British media folk who make their living from making people laugh by any means that our society seems to find acceptable.

Because a sizeable majority of us still look on the Royal Family with favour, particularly the Queen, I believe there would be a very strong public reaction from this majority, if our same media were to badly overstep the mark and to make downright offensive, obscene, scatalogical "jokes" directly aimed at the royals, for example. So the situation within the UK seems to be reasonably contained. Outside the UK however, our inherent respect for reasonable boundaries doesn't amount to a row of beans, and there lies the problem.

As seen on that astonishing wedding day, the outside world seems fascinated by our royal events. Yet it lacks our inbuilt sense of self regulation, there is little or no sense of where to draw the line of reasonable behaviour, that even we have taken a few centuries to acquire. For this reason it seems necessary on occasion to use whatever means are available to restrain unruly commonwealth and foreign organisations from their excesses, including threatening to turn off the direct broadcast link!
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Old 15th May 2011, 14:53   #209 (permalink)
 
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Indeed. The spectacle of Huw Edwards taking the rise as the blushing bride walks up the aisle would be unthinkable. Still, as for the rest of them, I imagine no family of benefit scroungers particularly enjoys the media spotlight.

Hang on, there's a knock at the door...
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There are those amongst, of course, who regard the so called 'House of Windsor' as merely a bunch of opportunistic sausage siders ( Saxe-Coburg and Gotha) with little real claim on the throne and would welcome back the Tudors who were even more fun.
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Old 15th May 2011, 15:27   #211 (permalink)
 
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Well, yes lars, and here you are demonstrating that very freedom to speak your mind about our royals (at a distance, it has to be noted).

And I live in the county that fostered Wat Tyler, leader of the Peasant's Revolt. He was an opportunist, too - unfortunately he ended up with his head on a pike on London Bridge ...
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Wat Tyler, leader of the Peasant's Revolt.
duly bumped off by R II married to Anne of Bohemia fer Gawd's sake who was daughter of, oh let me guess. none other than the Holy Roman Emporer!!!

Just think what Spitting Images could have done with that!
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Old 16th May 2011, 00:27   #213 (permalink)
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Parapunter - I agree with the freedom of speech, however, there is a time and place for everything and I like to think that the British still retain a sense of common decency, (hard to believe at times when one sees what the crappy tabloids publish).

I appreciate that you don't approve of the Royal Family but you may as well get used to it, HM Queen probably another five years, Charles about fifteen and William closer to forty years and if William and Catherine do a good job, as I believe they can, then it will be solid monarchy for the next one hundred years!
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Have no fear, parabellum, I believe we do. My references above to "our inbuilt sense of self regulation" and "inherent respect for reasonable boundaries", are expressions of what I would call the "Steady, Carruthers" syndrome, and it has not yet deserted us.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, the cliche tells us. However, I most sincerely believe that the British sense of common decency has been an underpinning feature of both home and foreign policy over the past couple of centuries, despite the excoriation aroused at times by some actions, political and military, nationally and on the world stage. We may at times have got it wrong, but have never claimed infallibility, and have generally tried to do what we believe to be the right thing. That is an admirable trait, and is what gives me a quiet sense of pride at being British.

Mocking laughter will now follow from several quarters, but I don't care. Sir Walter Scott's words seem apt to me:

Breathes there a man with soul so dead
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!
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Wasn't he talking about Scotland at the time?
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Old 16th May 2011, 11:06   #216 (permalink)
 
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Yes he was Stormin...

...but it is still a universal sentiment. I always get a lump in my throat when I read that poem. Sentimental old fool...


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Old 16th May 2011, 17:41   #217 (permalink)
 
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I have no idea why you Brits like your Royal Family.

They are all Germans and Greeks.

Your soccer managers are all foreign, too.

Why do you put up with that?
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Old 16th May 2011, 19:07   #218 (permalink)
 
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Only one of them is a Greek....Philip was born on the island of Corfu (I think his mum was Danish.)

The rest of 'em are British born....to describe them as German is nonsense. It's a bit like saying George Vancouver was Dutch because of his grandfather.....George was born in Kings Lyn I think.
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Old 16th May 2011, 22:41   #219 (permalink)
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Sit and work it out Ancient Obs. just how much German blood does HM Queen have? (I reckon about one eighth).
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