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Old 9th Jan 2011, 00:54   #21 (permalink)
 
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It is interesting that Sarah P (aka Caribou Barbie) "targeted" her in the last election and gave us her famous "don't retreat, reload" quote. Makes "drill baby drill" a minor aside.

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Old 9th Jan 2011, 00:56   #22 (permalink)

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Are you ever going to post something that makes sense?

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Old 9th Jan 2011, 01:26   #23 (permalink)
 
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Con,

So this is not meaningful? Makes sense to me.

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Old 9th Jan 2011, 01:26   #24 (permalink)
 
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You're one sick man, Sultan, and I hope you seek some therapy.
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 01:50   #25 (permalink)
 
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Not sick at all sport. When the tea party carries guns to rallies to intimidate, disrupt town halls using McCarthy tactics to suppress free speech and honest discussions, and on and on, only a fool would not see that this was going to happen. It happened in the past (Tiller) and looks like it happened again. Even if this guy was a loon and not some McVeigh want-a-be the right should not wind them up, aim them and claim they never intended that to happen.

Even the only channel you watch agree ( I know it is just Shep) but you should heed it.

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Old 9th Jan 2011, 02:19   #27 (permalink)
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 02:36   #28 (permalink)

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Not sick at all sport. When the tea party carries guns to rallies to intimidate, disrupt town halls using McCarthy tactics to suppress free speech and honest discussions,
You mean like the unions act? And by the way, it was the Democrats that shoved the so called "Internet Neutrality" Act down our throats.

You ever see how conservatives are treated when attempting to give a speech on a liberal college campus?

Have you ever been to a Tea Party event? Or do you just accept what George Soros tells you.
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 03:03   #29 (permalink)
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only a fool would not see that this was going to happen. It happened in the past (Tiller) and looks like it happened again. Even if this guy was a loon and not some McVeigh want-a-be the right should not wind them up, aim them and claim they never intended that to happen.
"We're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is, that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district. When people do that, they have to realize that there are consequences to that action," Giffords said in an interview with MSNBC.[



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Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik .........pointed to the vitriolic political rhetoric that has consumed the country as he denounced the shooting that claimed several of his friends as victims, including U.S. District Judge John Roll. The judge celebrated Mass on Saturday morning like he does every day before stopping by to say hello to his good friend Giffords.

"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," the sheriff said
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 03:41   #30 (permalink)

 
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While the good person in me feels sorry for all those who were injured and killed; the cynical person in me wonders how the government will spin this to justify claiming that any critic of the government is a threat to national security...
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Anyone desiring an opposing opinion please link to this from the Chicago Boyz for a thoughtful and reasoned reply.

Jane DoH, that is precisely correct, the liberal left will now, has already by the lights of such hacks as Paul Krugman, use this act of a sociopath to aggregate more power, limit more rights of peace-loving citizens, use it denigrate opposition.

Yes, I post this as a gun-owning citizen who knows that gun owners in the US have lower crime rate, violent and non-violent, than our police.

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Old 9th Jan 2011, 04:13   #32 (permalink)
 
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Oh my, it didn't take long to degenerate, I was thinking someone was going to try and blame it on "W", but oops he's yesterday, now its Sarahs fault.

Both sides of politics are just as bad as each other with words like take back our country etc. Personally I think its a bit strong, but hay thats life. There is one thing for sure at the moment, he's a wack job, why he did it, and what triggered it is still to be determined. But one thing for sure, it doesn't matter what side of the fence he's on, it could easily have been some nutter from the other side.
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 04:23   #33 (permalink)

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Some of the things abut him being a 'whack-job, nut-job, etc' is starting to bother me. The first thing he did after being arrested was to refuse to answer questions and immediately lawyered up. Not normally the actions of the typical nut-jobs we've seen in the past. Well to be honest, most of the nut-jobs of recent past have killed themselves before being captured.

The FBI SAC also made some references to some comments the shooter said while he was being held down by two civilians from the crowd before the police arrived. Also there were some notes, or a note, found on him, it will be very interesting to find out just what was on that note/s.

So what all this means, or how it will turn out I don't know.
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 04:31   #34 (permalink)

 
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Obama Administration Reportedly Plans to Create an Internet ID for All Americans

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STANFORD, Calif.--President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.
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"We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy, and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

Details about the "trusted identity" project are remarkably scarce. Last year's announcement referenced a possible forthcoming smart card or digital certificate that would prove that online users are who they say they are. These digital IDs would be offered to consumers by online vendors for financial transactions.

Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential, if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.
Honestly, I don't buy it; I think they very much wish to create an online national ID card. You can call me cynical, but I have little trust in the government and it wouldn't be the first time that the government would lie to gain power then use them in a manner it specifically said it wouldn't.
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 04:37   #35 (permalink)

 
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that is precisely correct, the liberal left will now, has already by the lights of such hacks as Paul Krugman, use this act of a sociopath to aggregate more power, limit more rights of peace-loving citizens, use it denigrate opposition.
As Rahm Emmanuel once said: "Never let a crisis go to waste". While I'm on this topic, I'd like to make one thing clear here: Both the left-wing and right-wing (particularly over the past 9 years) have strategically positioned themselves to capitalize on the periodic and convenient crisis.

I don't like the left wing and I don't like the right wing either; I prefer to make up my own mind about what I like and don't like; what I agree with and don't agree with; who I like and don't like...
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 05:32   #36 (permalink)
 
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What gets my shorts in a twist is that here we have a horrible criminal event, with a judge, a child and 4 others dead, along with a Congresswoman critically injured. Then within the first half hour, and less than half a dozen PPRuNe postings a bunch of people are looking to pin the blame for this onto their political opponents.

The TeaPartiers, S.Palin, Rush, Glen, et al did not cause this event. Neither did the Red Chinese, MoveOn, the Iranians, the Israelis, the Daily Kos, or Al Franken. The perpetrator is to blame. To assign vicarious blame to someone else is just plain disgusting.
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 05:51   #37 (permalink)
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Old 9th Jan 2011, 06:11   #38 (permalink)

 
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obgraham,

I wasn't pinning the blame for what happened on politicians I disagree with; I was stating that I believe they will exploit this for their own agendas.

*THAT'S* what I consider disgusting

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Old 9th Jan 2011, 10:12   #39 (permalink)

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From a total outsider point of view, a politician of Palins "stature" should avoid using words like "reload" and "crosshairs" in her spouts.

Stuff like that is bound to cause linkage to such events.

But hey I am an unarmed European !
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Frankly I'm a tad surprised it does not happen more often in places where firearms can be laid hands on so easily,the targeting of politicians I mean not the bystanders, larger and larger groups of people have begun to realize these days no matter who you vote for you end up with a politician,same old same old.
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