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Old 29th Nov 2010, 16:57   #1 (permalink)
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I fear the thaw.

I currently have 11 inches of snow on the roof of my house.

This doesn't worry me, but, after last year (well, earlier this year) when there was a similar amount of snow on the roof, when it begins to thaw it seeps-in under the eaves (because the gutters become blocked with ice).

How do folk cope in areas that regularly get copious quantities of snow that thaws slowly?

Is this a fault with the construction of the roof?
(It only happens on the north-facing aspect, the south-facing aspect seems to manage to melt the contents of the gutter to allow the melting snow to dissipate.)
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 17:35   #2 (permalink)
 
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I just started typing out a less than helpful reply, when there was a rumble outside. The roof has shed its load. But its taken the gutter with it...
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 17:41   #3 (permalink)
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The situation seems to be exacerbated by efficient roof insulation which encourages the formation of ice under the 'blanket' of snow.
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 17:58   #4 (permalink)

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I currently have 11 inches of snow on the roof of my house.
Only 11 inches? Luxury. Up here on the moors we are talking at least a couple of feet.

Well, except where it becomes too heavy, slides off and takes the front gutter with it. What made it worse was it refilled a path I had just cleared ... was not amused on two counts.

And in partial answer to the question, na Rossiya, where deep snow is obligatory, spring usually brings a regular number of deaths by snow falling from buildings and bringing the gutters along to fall on the heads of unwary pedestrians. One would think that the Russians would have things sorted, so what hope do we have with our piddly plastic gutters?
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 18:20   #5 (permalink)
 
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Sounds like you have ice dams in the gutters. Google ice dams, but this oughta start you on the right track.
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 20:18   #6 (permalink)
 
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the family has had a place in the alps for skiing for a number of years, where 3ft of snow over night is not uncommon. as for gutters... there are none.
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 20:34   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks, pigboat - that looks like something I can try . . .
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 21:16   #8 (permalink)
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Didn't Judd and the Viking do some sort of magic with a rope thrown over the roof last year?
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 22:14   #9 (permalink)
 
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Perhaps you may consider replacing your roof with a chruch spire?
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 22:33   #10 (permalink)
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The situation is complicated as the underlayer of the snow 'bonds' to the roof tiles (flat pantiles) due to forming ice.

I'm toying with the idea of using a garden hose to spray the accumulated deposits as soon as the melt starts.

It might seem like madness as it will create more ice but the problem is the slow thaw and the coldness of the tiles.

I'm interested in the 'rope' idea if anyone can find the references.
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 23:10   #11 (permalink)

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the lyrics, "I fought the thaw and the thaw won" have been running through my mind since I saw the OP
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 01:38   #12 (permalink)
 
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And in partial answer to the question, na Rossiya, where deep snow is obligatory, spring usually brings a regular number of deaths by snow falling from buildings and bringing the gutters along to fall on the heads of unwary pedestrians. One would think that the Russians would have things sorted, so what hope do we have with our piddly plastic gutters?


na Rossiya, the thaw does reveal a number of deaths. Those of the tramps (bomshi) who feeling nice and warm from a belly full of rot gut vodka decide to lie down and have a sleep in the snow. The thaw reveals the bodies.
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 01:51   #13 (permalink)
 
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Wrap-On 14080 400 Watt 80' Roof & Gutter De-Icing Cable
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 02:25   #14 (permalink)
 
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I am transiting Newcastle, UK for six hours on Thursday. How much snow is there there?

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Old 30th Nov 2010, 02:41   #15 (permalink)

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10 - 15 cms accumulation and will be sticking around for awhile
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 07:07   #16 (permalink)
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I'm interested in the 'rope' idea if anyone can find the references.
Try sending a PM to Judd.
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 08:31   #17 (permalink)
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I fear the thaw.
Is your missus pissed off too?
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 09:49   #18 (permalink)
 
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Blocked downpipe 11pm Sunday. Blame the roofer for getting crud in it while removing old slates. Phone roofer Monday morning (he lives 3 doors along) to see whether he has a set of rods. "Sure; I'll be there when it's light". Pair of us on scaffolding in snow and wind (lovely). Pipe clear - it was ice. Ooops.
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Diary of a New Snow Shoveler

December 8th 6:00 PM It started to snow. The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven. It looked like a Grandma Moses print. So romantic we felt like newlyweds again. I love snow!

December 9th We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Can there be a more lovely place in the whole world? Moving here was the best idea I've ever had. Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a boy again. I did both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life.

December 12th The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Such a disappointment. My neighbor tells me not to worry, we'll definitely have a white Christmas. No snow on Christmas would be awful! Bob says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again. I don't think that's possible. Bob is such a nice man I'm glad he's our neighbor.

December 14th Snow, lovely snow! 8" last night. The temperature dropped to - 20. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplow came back this afternoon and buried everything again. I didn't realize I would
have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back into shape this way. I wish I wouldn't huff and puff so.

December 15th 20 inches in the forecast. Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer. Bought snow tires for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels. Stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out. I think that's silly. We aren't in Alaska after all.

December 16th Ice storm this morning. Fell on my ass on the ice in the driveway putting down salt. Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, which I think was very cruel.

December 17th Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere. Electricity was off for 5 hours. I had to pile blankets on to stay warm. Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her. I hate it when she's right. More shoveling. Took all day. Damn snowplow came by twice. Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey. I think they're lying. Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he's lying.

December 22nd Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of white sh!t fell today, and it's so cold it probably won't melt 'till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to piss. By the
time I got undressed, pissed, and dressed again, I was too tired to shovel. Tried to hire Bob who has a plow on his truck for the rest of the winter but he says he's too busy. I think the a**hole is lying.

December 23rd Only 2" of snow today. And it warmed up to 0. The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she...nuts? Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she did, but I think she's damn well lying.

December 24th 6". Snow packed so hard by snowplow, I broke the shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the son of a bitch who drives that snowplow, I'll drag him through the snow by his balls. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was busy watching for the damn snowplow.

December 25th Merry Christmas. 20 more inches of the *&^%$# tonight. Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. I hate the snow! Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think she's an idiot. If I have to watch "It's A Wonderful Life" one more time, I'm going to kill her.

December 26th Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was ALL HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.

December 27th Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze.


December 28th Warmed up to above - 50. Still snowed in. THE BITCH is driving me crazy!!!!!

December 29th 10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am?

December 30th The roof caved in. The snow plow driver is suing me for a million dollars for the bump on his head. The wife went home to her Mother. 9" predicted.

December 31st Set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.

January 8th I feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed?????
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I never ever worried about my gutters till I read this thread!

**Submits Personal Injury Claim**
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