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Old 30th Nov 2010, 19:32   #61 (permalink)
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pig, did you see Ezra Levant's column in The Sun, I think it was, today? He speculates, in effect, on the insurability of Assange's days to come; or not.
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Not yet, but it'll probably be on Bourque Newswatch.

Ok, here it is.

Wikileaks boss living on borrowed time.
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 21:49   #63 (permalink)
 
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Personally I would put Assange & Jane Fonda up against the same wall to be shot for treason!
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 22:05   #64 (permalink)
 
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I'm sure you would - it's how you defend the Freedom of Speech you are so famous for.
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I wouldn't call it anything like freedom of speech, that term is so miss used by the PC brigade its sad.

He got stuff that he wasn't supposed to have, distributed illegally by someone so it could be posted.

Its the same thing as a friend borrowing your stuff then giving it to someone else to give away.
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Why is it?
He distributed it.

If it had been secure - it wouldn't be out there.

It wasn't a mate who trusted him that gave him something in confidence to keep secure for return.
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 22:27   #67 (permalink)
 
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Interpol warrant issued for Assange, according to Radio 5.
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 22:41   #68 (permalink)
 
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What are the charges?

Distributing asinine opinions? Daring to put so much junk on t'internet? Telling us what we pretty much knew or guessed anyway? Failure to Observe National Paranoia?





This kind of works if you just ignore the specifically American part.



Is anyone going to get the meeting with no tea and biscuits treatment over allowing a 23 year old Private First Class to have a login & password to apparently anything and everything he could download off his 'puter (allegedly)?


'This is top secret - it contains the intelligence and expert opinion of our embassies and top field agents - including the bit about Angela Merkel being a bit hefty and not good in bed.'
'Don't worry I've got the temp on it - he's a geek.'



Have you noticed how most governments that have objected are 'embarrassed' - not hurt like with sticks or stones - but they've lost face?

'I didn't mean it like that...I meant to say that those people are really nice fellows and really trustworthy.'

'Governments' performances over the past 10 years have been little short of useless. From a lack of security with regard to terrorism, to eroding rights in the name of security to not being able to manage a bank account between them - I think they bloody deserve a bit of embarrassment.

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Old 30th Nov 2010, 23:38   #69 (permalink)
 
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Assange's details were also added to Interpol's worldwide wanted list. Dated 30 November, the entry reads: "sex crimes" and says the warrant has been issued by the international public prosecution office in Gothenburg, Sweden.
ASSANGE, JULIAN PAUL

But thanks for the lecture.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 00:15   #70 (permalink)
 
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Read somewhere he was in the UK, in which case he will be picked up quite soon I would think?

Presumably they can add the charge of handling stolen intellectual property as well?
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No problem - I'm available for childrens parties and Bar Mitzvah's.

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Presumably they can add the charge of handling stolen intellectual property as well?
'Intellectual' always seems to imply something cerebral and clever. I'm not sure that applies in this case.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 03:12   #72 (permalink)
 
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Its the same thing as a friend borrowing your stuff then giving it to someone else to give away.
How? The US government still has the original stuff so nothing has been stolen, only copied and disseminated.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 04:33   #73 (permalink)

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And Sarah Palin wants him hunted down like Osama and Al-Queda.

So, 10 years hence......... no result then.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 05:19   #74 (permalink)
 
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He distributed it.
Not so sure that is correct. Surely he has just made it available to the public.

The public still need to (voluntarily) make the effort to go and look at it.

Isn't this rather like leaving your car key in the ignition or the front door to your house open. You may be inviting theft, but it will still take the action of a third party to complete the cycle?
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If it had been secure - it wouldn't be out there.
If I understand it correctly it was sercure, a scumbag broke his oath and duty and distrubuted it to another scumbag to put in the public domain. For the original person a firing squad by his peers would be the best thing.

The vast majority of people entrusted with secret/confidential stuff are able to do their bit, even if it goes against their personal beliefs. In fact our whole system works on our political/moral beliefs not getting in the way.

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How? The US government still has the original stuff so nothing has been stolen, only copied and disseminated.
I believe the rules about electronic copying is settled law. Even though it was meant to be a proverbial comparision. The end of the day, it was wrong, it wasn't a single instance of a massive wrong doing that was righted by some leaker.

It was a mass leaking of confidential/secret material that our governments are aloud to do by law with no thought to the potential consequences.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 07:11   #76 (permalink)
 
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here's the arrest warrant:

ASSANGE, JULIAN PAUL
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 07:28   #77 (permalink)
 
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Julian Assange and the Computer Conspiracy; ?To destroy this invisible government? zunguzungu

Make of it what you will. No doubt one or two on here will be getting the noose / rifles out.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 07:39   #78 (permalink)
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There's one important thing that people seem to forget about governments: they work for you. You (hopefully) chose them, they are (ideally) doing what you want them to do, and they are (definitely) spending your money to do it.

Therefore, they must be accountable to you for their actions. Companies have to publish accounts, and get punished in the marketplace if they do underhand things. I know there are times when secrets are necessary, but they regularly keep too many secrets from their employers (i.e. you).
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 08:30   #79 (permalink)
 
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The swedish court is just a puppet of the CIA. J. A. was clearly framed in a lame attempt by the us to discredit him. Having sex is no crime here and is not causing offense. I guess they are going to plant child porn on the wiki server next, the problem is that they have to touch the material themselves first in that case.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 08:46   #80 (permalink)
 
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Must have read it on Wikileaks
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