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Old 11th Apr 2010, 09:22   #101 (permalink)

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Only canvassers we get are JWs. The politicos push their leaflets through the letterbox and disappear as quickly as possible. I think you have to make an appointment if you want them to talk to you.
Guess you live in a safe seat then.

The party for whom the seat is safe won't waste effort campaigning if they're going to win anyway, they'll send their workers to other seats. The other parties aren't going to waste effort campaigning if they're going to lose anyway, they'll send their workers to other seats.

The wonders of first-past-the-post - most votes don't count, so aren't worth fighting for.
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 10:31   #102 (permalink)
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Indeed, unchanged since 1924 . . . (though it did come within 222 in 1997)
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 12:57   #103 (permalink)

 
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The Times being a 'quality' newspaper supports the Tories

That is not always so. In the last election there, both Times and Financial Times supported Labour.
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 13:56   #104 (permalink)

 
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Grrr

The Times lost its credability forever when it backed
Nev Chamberlain in '40 with his "peace in our time" nonsence.
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The average Times reader would vote for a pig if it
wore a blue ribbon.
Quite often they do.
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 15:02   #106 (permalink)
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For many years now, I have thought that the Liberals might make a better fist than either of the 'primary' parties, but the possibility of them actually gaining sufficient seats to form a government (with the current electoral system) continues to seem unlikely. Of course, locally, a Liberal MP might be beneficial, but the likelihood of that is pretty remote in my constituency, so a vote for the Liberals is more inclined to assist one of the two main parties to gain a majority over the other - so I am not prepared to risk it.
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(Jack Perschke - PPC Derby South, and a posh git)

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Old 11th Apr 2010, 15:55   #108 (permalink)

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Of course, locally, a Liberal MP might be beneficial, but the likelihood of that is pretty remote in my constituency, so a vote for the Liberals is more inclined to assist one of the two main parties to gain a majority over the other - so I am not prepared to risk it.
It does take a lot of hard work over a long period.

What happened here was that a considerable while ago someone decided "ok, we can take this council", from a standing start of zero. He set about applying all the book techniques, and they worked, as in the book - his party gained on average one council seat per year, until at 24 seats they controlled the council. And five years later the council leader, having established his reputation locally, won the parliamentary seat.

Total time take to get from from zero councillors to winning the parliamentary seat: about twenty-five years.
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 16:59   #109 (permalink)
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During my time at Uni I shared rooms with a guy from Scotland. I got roped-in to help him with the election work he was doing for his local candidate - a chap by the name of Steel. Whatever happened to him?
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 17:14   #110 (permalink)
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I'm sorry, but this is supposed to be a democracy, Europe that is, I as a British national, have no vote, I am not allowed to vote in German elections, although I pay the taxes, social, and what ever, I can not vote in the British elections as I have no address in the UK, yet others are allowed, why not me, Its not only myself by the way......why is that?
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 17:31   #111 (permalink)
 
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Quite often they do.
The average voter where I live would vote for Thatcher if she wore a red rosette.
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 17:59   #112 (permalink)
 
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If you have any doubt about how low Labour will stoop to garner votes, take a look at this...

Labour hit by cancer leaflet row - Times Online

If it is true, it is beyond sick. It begs the question, "where did they get the details?" Patient records are supposed to be confidential and this must be, at the very least, a gross violation of the Data Protection Act.

Patients already frightened by the disease, being targeted to try to gain a political point is beyond sick, it is cruelty at its worst.
Swines, absolute bloody swines.

How anybody can even contemplate supporting them after their record of deceit, lies and negligence is beyond me.



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Old 11th Apr 2010, 18:52   #113 (permalink)
 
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THE prime minister has blocked an attempt by David Cameron to make Sir Richard Dannatt, the former head of the army, a Tory peer.
Gordon Brown blocks peerage for army chief Sir Richard Dannatt - Times Online

typical of a petty, vindictive, childish a$$hole PM..


meanwhile.. Prescott, who has abhored peerages, titles and 'elitism' is on the peergae list.

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In 2004 he railed against the blue-blooded aristocrats, telling a Labour party regional conference: “Now is the time to rid ourselves of the remaining rump of hereditaries in the Lords. They are an offence against democracy.”

In August 2008 he said he would not follow in the footsteps of other Labour grandees such as Neil Kinnock, Roy Hattersley and Denis Healey, saying it would mean he would be “sidelined”. He said: “I don’t want to be a member of the House of Lords. I will not accept it.” He said he was “against too much flunkery and titles”.
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 22:50   #114 (permalink)

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I as a British national, have no vote, I am not allowed to vote in German elections, although I pay the taxes, social, and what ever, I can not vote in the British elections as I have no address in the UK, yet others are allowed, why not me, Its not only myself by the way......why is that?
Dunno, never quite understood that.

EU nationals living in the UK:

(1) CAN vote in European elections - OK, I can see the sense in that (they're Europeans living in Europe)

(2) CANNOT vote in UK general elections - OK, I can see the sense in that (they're not UK citizens)

(3) CAN vote in UK local elections ... er ... why allow this but not (2)???
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 22:58   #115 (permalink)
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[QUOTE][Whatever happened to him?/QUOTE]

Try the House of Lords.
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 23:02   #116 (permalink)
 
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On the Cancer postcards

As she who must be obeyed has had her 5 year remission scan - (last week), I take exception to this bit of Scottish Labour politics.

As I might be mentally deranged, due to my wife's cancer, and my obvious need for something-that-the-psychiatrist-can-invent-soon, can I please shoot the morality-free jerk that invented this mail-shot, and not spend too long in prison??
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Old 12th Apr 2010, 07:09   #117 (permalink)
 
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Democracy in the style of Robert Mugabe.

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British soldiers serving in Afghanistan may not have their votes counted in the General Election, the Government has confessed.

Justice minister Michael Wills has admitted there is 'no guarantee' ballot papers filled out on the battlefield will reach the UK in time for 6 May.

Ministers have said they will try to overcome the massive problem of transporting postal votes to and from Helmand Province using military supply planes.


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A poll on the unofficial military website, Army Rumour Service, found 57 per cent of troops said they would vote Conservative, with 7 per cent choosing Labour.
How anyone could even consider voting for Labour is beyond me.. vote ? a vote to destroy democracy..

A cup of steaming irony anyone ?
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Old 12th Apr 2010, 11:57   #118 (permalink)
 
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Something I mentioned earlier before all this election hysteria started,why are the parties being allowed free party political broadcast time on air on all the news channels,it must be obvious to eveyone by now, it is not news it is blatant party politicking,made the scum pay for spouting their lies.
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Old 12th Apr 2010, 14:35   #119 (permalink)
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Out canvassing last night, while we were gathered in the car park, wrapping up the proceedings, our blue rosettes caused one poor confused chap to mistake us for Tottenham supporters. "Would we look this cheerful if we were?" came the response.

I notice an oddity about the polls. They all add up to 100%. Now, if they only publish the opinions of those who say how they will vote, those polls are seriously skewed. "Use and Abuse of Statistics" tells one that a proper poll would include all the "don't knows" and "won't votes". On the doorstep, I'm finding about half of those canvassed fall into this category. (That's when one calls the MP over to chat with them.) Also, its mostly the younger folks - students and such - who say they're not interested and won't be voting. Its gonna be a grey election, in our constituency at least.

I suggest that those relying on the polls to wave their magic swingometers in our face should prepare themselves for a surprise result.

BTW, those watching BBC 2's Newsnight at 10.30 on Wednesday might just catch a glimpse of a certain white haired gentleman - if you're quick.

...and aye tony, we never paid a penny for the exposure.

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Old 12th Apr 2010, 14:59   #120 (permalink)
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Neighbour's garage has acquired an orange 'hazchem' diamond on the door . . .

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