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Old 18th Jul 2017, 13:32   #11341 (permalink)
 
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Thankfully my missus isn't one of them. She virtually has to be restrained from throwing things at the tv when JC comes on!
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If only she had consulted JB first......

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...gests-minister
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Don't usually agree with this woman

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ond-referendum

but the opening lines hit the nail right on the head

'Confirmation bias is everywhere. You are what you read – and you read stories that confirm who you think you are.'
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 06:54   #11344 (permalink)
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Don't usually agree with this woman

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ond-referendum

but the opening lines hit the nail right on the head

'Confirmation bias is everywhere. You are what you read – and you read stories that confirm who you think you are.'
You missed this bit out......

But never try another referendum. Haven’t we learned that lesson the hard way? A crude question divides a nation, driven by emotions not on the ballot paper, paralysing politics for years to come. If your confirmation bias draws your eyes only to stories that tell you the tide is turning, cast your eyes occasionally at how Murdoch, the Mail and the Telegraph still ply their venom. They would still be there, poisoning the air, in a second referendum
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The brown stuff is going to hit the fan at the BBC today.
Gary Lineker paid as much as 90 nurses. To chat about wendyball.
Luckily the BBC license fee is entirely optional, so you don't have to pay for this profligacy.

The fact that the BBC is a social engineering propaganda outfit also makes it moral not to pay them.
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 08:54   #11346 (permalink)
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The brown stuff is going to hit the fan at the BBC today.
Gary Lineker paid as much as 90 nurses. To chat about wendyball.
Luckily the BBC license fee is entirely optional, so you don't have to pay for this profligacy.

The fact that the BBC is a social engineering propaganda outfit also makes it moral not to pay them.
I know this is JB, and facts are an anathema to many, but, there's but one almost inconsequential I suppose, flaw in your offering of such above....

Official TV Licensing website - Legal framework

Of course, the above website could be entirely wrong......
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 09:10   #11347 (permalink)
 
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I know this is JB, and facts are an anathema to many, but, there's but one almost inconsequential I suppose, flaw in your offering of such above....

Official TV Licensing website - Legal framework

Of course, the above website could be entirely wrong......
What the BBC don't want you to know:
TV licence: Do I need a TV licence? - MoneySavingExpert
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 09:17   #11348 (permalink)
 
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Krystal & Chips - history is made today as I find myself agreeing with you for the first time ever (Post 11344).
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 09:26   #11349 (permalink)
 
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Corbyn the Clown strikes again...

"Jeremy Corbyn hastily deleted a tweet about “unfair” car parking charges when he realised his own party is to blame for them. Jez tweeted a link to an Independent article about staff at a Cardiff hospital facing fines for parking in the wrong car park, branding the charges “a burden on families, patients, and NHS staff“. He didn’t seem to realise the NHS in Wales is run by Labour and the charges were introduced under a Labour administration. The tweet has since disappeared…
The Canary also forgot that Wales is run by Labour, claiming Jeremy Hunt “should be ashamed of his despicable attack on NHS staff” – even though he has no control over the policy."


https://order-order.com/2017/07/19/c...run-welsh-nhs/
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 15:58   #11350 (permalink)
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TV licence: Do I need a TV licence? - MoneySavingExpert
That's an interesting read, but, you are still paying one way or another and because I watch live TV, and have no objection to the licence fee given the range of BBC's services overall.

Anyway, on again, another thread, the not so little matter ( and a truly outstanding contender for the prestigious "JB Social Commentators Polemic of the week" award came forth with reasons why the population of the N.East, pet, should basically be considered a burden on the state from they day they were conceived, let alone born, in this respect) of life expectancy was mentioned.

Here's the latest Tory inducement to work longer.....and add to the reasons why your life expectancy will soon be reducing further....

https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...r-than-planned

That's a few million votes heading for Labour, with the odd smattering for the Lib Dems / Greens ,then.

And then there's this....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...to-halt-corbyn

I would suggest all those much vaunted military " values " are already in place in the Tory party....duplicity, lack of leadership, no cohesion, a distinct hierarchy when it comes to societal needs, lying, bullying and abrogation of responsibility whilst ensuring the image remains intact less the public begin to delve deeper under the veneer presented to them.

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Old 19th Jul 2017, 17:21   #11351 (permalink)
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Anyway, on again, another thread, the not so little matter ( and a truly outstanding contender for the prestigious "JB Social Commentators Polemic of the week" award came forth with reasons why the population of the N.East, pet, should basically be considered a burden on the state from they day they were conceived, let alone born, in this respect) of life expectancy was mentioned.

Here's the latest Tory inducement to work longer.....and add to the reasons why your life expectancy will soon be reducing further....

https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...r-than-planned

That's a few million votes heading for Labour, with the odd smattering for the Lib Dems / Greens, then.
Those that you refer to as being a burden in the North East would vote Labour anyway, whether or not they have a job or ever had a job.
Many (though obviously not all) would have grown up in coal-mining areas where their ancestors were guaranteed work (as long as it was down the pit) or those who lived near the rivers would have expected employment in the shipyards. A couple of generations were denied work (pits and shipyards closed).
Now, of course, there is Nissan and a few start-up electronics firms or call centres. Apart from that, retailing (including shelf-stacking), charity shops or bus-driving thrive.
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You missed this bit out......

But never try another referendum. Haven’t we learned that lesson the hard way? A crude question divides a nation, driven by emotions not on the ballot paper, paralysing politics for years to come. If your confirmation bias draws your eyes only to stories that tell you the tide is turning, cast your eyes occasionally at how Murdoch, the Mail and the Telegraph still ply their venom. They would still be there, poisoning the air, in a second referendum
stunning lack of self awareness

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because I watch live TV, and have no objection to the licence fee given the range of BBC's services overall. .
Congratulations

I don't watch any of the BBC output and pay a significant fee to a private TV broadcaster - why can't I opt out?
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 18:16   #11353 (permalink)
 
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You missed this bit out......

But never try another referendum. Haven’t we learned that lesson the hard way? A crude question divides a nation, driven by emotions not on the ballot paper, paralysing politics for years to come. If your confirmation bias draws your eyes only to stories that tell you the tide is turning, cast your eyes occasionally at how Murdoch, the Mail and the Telegraph still ply their venom. They would still be there, poisoning the air, in a second referendum
Ah the irony, by simply posting something along the lines of 'Polly says it so it must be true' you actually confirm the extract from her article that I referred to.

A point many others have suggested over the years.
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 19:13   #11354 (permalink)
 
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Oh dear, a branch of the Money Tree is found not bearing fruit

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc...s/amp/40659901

Imagine my surprise.
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 07:01   #11355 (permalink)
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Ah the irony, by simply posting something along the lines of 'Polly says it so it must be true' you actually confirm the extract from her article that I referred to.

A point many others have suggested over the years.
There is nothing ironic about confirming factual statements.

G-CPTN....when it comes to the term "burden", it wasn't me who so thoughtfully profiled the population as essentially being such. I have been known to use dry sarcasm at times.....

And now, for those whose priapism is invariably induced at the mere mention of her name, here's a nice revelation as to her concern about her legacy....although she need not have concerned herself really, the legacy will remain enshrined for generations to come.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ching-poll-tax

The current incumbent is also dedicated to creating her own legacy albeit until recently she didn't actually have much to offer. .....
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 08:57   #11356 (permalink)
 
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Did you actually watch the debate in parliament yesterday? I did and was disgusted at the government's clowns. A Tory member raised a question, accusing Labour of having offered to write off all student debt. Angela Rayner denied such an offer had been made and clarified exactly what had and had not been offered. She resumed her speech and was interrupted by a Tory accusing Labour of offering to write off all student debt! I was sure she had just addressed this issue. Some minutes later, there was an intervention from a Tory idiot, this time a notable Tory idiot, Ian Duncan Smith. He annoyed people like me as he began his intervention with the most hideous snide grimace cum sneer on his face and asked about Labour offering to write off all student debt! This was now getting tedious but to Anglea Rayner's credit, she answered in a civilised manner. I suppose she could have asked the Speaker to investigate problems with the acoustics in the chamber as the Honourable and Right Honourable cretins opposite were not hearing a word coming from the Opposition benches. And IDS was not the last Tory to ask the same question over and over ad nauseam.
The crux of the matter was that this debate had been secured under Standing Order 24 as the government's original promises of debates had been dodged in 2016 & 2017. The most recent was avoided by the clever wheeze of scheduling the debate for a day in June, then trumping that by calling for a general election the day before the debate. Angela Rayner wanted to know what was the government going to do about the 6.1% interest rate on student loans. The government response was to ask about Corbyn's pledges re cancelling student loan debts. She mentioned something along the lines of a previous commitment from the government that there would be no increase in student loans without the issue having been debated and agreed by both Houses. The government's response to this was to ask about Corbyn's ..... yes you've guessed.
So, there was a determined attempt by the government to avoid the issues and to repeat the same already answered point over and over again. A dreadful waste of scarce parliamentary time and a transparent attempt to duck the real issue. Hence my initial comment re being disgusted by the clowns etc.
Perhaps this fits with May's attempts to stifle democracy. I read somewhere recently that this government has allowed only 4 debates since the last election. And it seems this is to be pursued into the next couple of years. I watched as a stream of members paraded past the Speaker presenting various bills and announcing 2nd reading dates. A lot of them were scheduled for October 2018!
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You do realise that PMQ's is just political theatre, don't you.
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Did you actually watch the debate in parliament yesterday? I did and was disgusted at the government's clowns.
Its the same tactic used by the remain campaign to accuse Leave of promising £350m to the NHS.

It is just career politicians playing politics and we are stuck with it.
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 13:13   #11359 (permalink)
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It's an easy mistake to make Andrea.....those of us on here who are classed by JB's exacting intellectual criteria as being thick, such as myself on innumerable occasions for example, can almost empathise with your error...

Leadsom calls Jane Austen 'one of our greatest living authors' - BBC News

Probably just as well you got booted out in the knockout stages really....

And, following the " how to squander as yet unknown but considerably more than advertised " millions on the current vanity project, here's the inevitable losers.....the rest of the UK population to be more exact.....

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...fication-plans

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Yet they're still continuing with that monstrous waste of money - HS2.
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