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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 12:48   #8681 (permalink)
 
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Point about all of these is that if you join the club/religion you're agreeing to sign up to their rules. And if you later change your mind and decide you no longer like the rules you're free to leave at any time.
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Shouldn't that post be over on the Brexit hampsterwheel(sic) thread?

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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 12:56   #8682 (permalink)
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Civil disorder might be the least of our problems if islamisation is not stopped in its tracks.
If everyone accepts Islamisation, there will be no need for civil disorder.

Was there civil disorder when Christianity was introduced?
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 13:08   #8683 (permalink)
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Sallyann1234,

Whilst I am against a ban, they have in France and Belgium since 2011 and Austria since last year, but I haven't seen such protests. The Dutch have passed a ban and it awaits Senate approval and Merkel has called for a ban in Germany. They obviously don't expect the problems you forecast.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 14:43   #8684 (permalink)
 
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My understanding is that their restrictions have been applied in a limited manner, rather than an outright ban. And not without some protests.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 15:23   #8685 (permalink)
 
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My understanding is that their restrictions have been applied in a limited manner, rather than an outright ban. And not without some protests.
SITREP from my vantage point in Paris.

Low level protests, yes. Well understood by police. Limited to a few individuals and banlieu. Little reporting. Generally ignored.

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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 16:20   #8686 (permalink)
 
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Corbyn 'planning to dismantle' UK defences

I've been away from the news since Friday, and have been catching up. I've seen this headline in a few online places, but am only able to identify it as remarks made about 'Crazy Jezza' by third parties. Now I'm no Jezza fan, but this (unless I'm mistaken) is despicable fake news of the worst kind. Presenting 'my' opinion about 'you', as something 'you' said is shoite reporting of the worst kind imo.

So, is he planning to dismantle the country's defences? Or has he said he'll have a defence review? Perhaps for this bit of the thread, posters might refrain from posting what they think he might do, and concentrate on his policy statements. Ta.

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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 17:06   #8687 (permalink)
 
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If everyone accepts Islamisation, there will be no need for civil disorder.

Was there civil disorder when Christianity was introduced?
I take it that's a wind-up.

History tells us it didn't happen without violence. Mostly against the Christians.

We have had the reformation and the enlightenment. Islam hasn't. It's adherents, or the more deranged ones at any rate, believe they have a God-given right to persecute non-believers, subjugate women, possess slaves and practice amputations and summary execution.

The work of Satan.

Enough said.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 17:08   #8688 (permalink)
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Don't forget the Spanish Inquisition!
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 17:10   #8689 (permalink)
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CG.....some factual reporting for you.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rent-manifesto
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 17:13   #8690 (permalink)
 
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Don't forget the Spanish Inquisition!
I haven't but, as I wrote, we in what used to be called Christendom have had the reformation and the enlightenment. Islam hasn't.
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I would hope that we've moved on, societally, from an era wherein the gumment decrees and enforces a dress code.

There is quite enough Islamophobic crap without the gumment wading in knee-deep to a morass.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 17:53   #8692 (permalink)
 
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Nobody forgets the Spanish Inquisition.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 20:32   #8693 (permalink)
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And this in the Independent, which currently is far, far to the left of even the Grauniad.....

I'm glad Jeremy Corbyn is putting aside trivial subjects like Trident to concentrate on what really matters
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That's all we need!

Blair hints he could run for Parliament to fight Brexit.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 08:17   #8695 (permalink)
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 08:48   #8696 (permalink)
 
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Bring it on!

Seriously, what does he plan to do if elected? Does he really think that without his army of enforcers and spin doctors that he will be in a position to make any difference? Does he still believe that parliament and the electorate hang on his every word and will obligingly do as he suggests?

He apparently hated the Commons when he was an MP before, and did his best to avoid going there any more than he absolutely needed to. Why should things be any different today? Quite honestly, the man would be a gift to the other candidates in almost any seat he pitched up in.

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Old 24th Apr 2017, 09:06   #8697 (permalink)
 
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Talk about deluded. A lengthy period of silence is what is required from that man. For the rest of his life.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 11:11   #8698 (permalink)

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Talk about deluded. A lengthy period of silence is what is required from that man. For the rest of his life.
It could have been worse. At least he didn't actually use the words "I think you should vote LibDem".
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 11:45   #8699 (permalink)
 
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We have had the reformation and the enlightenment. Islam hasn't.
For Muslims, Islam was the enlightenment.

It's all a matter of viewpoint.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 13:55   #8700 (permalink)
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This is bound to gain the Conservatives ten times as many votes as there are communist left in the country........

Commies for Corbyn

The Communist Party of Britain has announced it will not stand candidates at the election and ask its supporters to vote for Corbyn’s Labour instead. The reds write in the Morning Star, obviously:
“In every general election since the formation of the CP in 1920, we have stood our own candidates, not least in 2015 when we fielded nine. Now, on this occasion, we we will not contest any seats, although this does not signal any withdrawal from the electoral arena in the future.

“We call for a Labour vote in every constituency across Britain, despite the reactionary views of numerous Labour Party candidates. Communist Party organisations will approach local Labour Party bodies in their area with offers of practical campaigning assistance…

“The higher the Labour vote and the number of Labour MPs elected, the more secure will be the position of Jeremy Corbyn and his left allies in the Parliamentary Labour Party.”
UPDATE: A brief history lesson…

In the eighties the Communist Party of Great Britain was split between a ‘Stalinist’ pro-Soviet faction and an anti-Soviet “Eurocommunist” faction. Some lefties were very upset that the CPGB was rejecting Soviet communism. They denounced the Eurocommunists as CIA plants. The anti-Eurocommunist faction included Corbyn’s two top spinners Seumas Milne and Steve Howell. Milne and Howell worked for Straight Left, a Stalinist newspaper which represented the pro-Soviet, anti-Eurocommunist wing of the CPGB. Pro-Soviet CPGB members split and set up the Communist Party of Britain. Supporters included Stop the War’s Andrew Murray, a friend of Corbyn.

It is this Communist Party of Britain, the pro-Soviet, Stalinist wing full of Corbyn’s old mates, which has endorsed Labour today…
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