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Old 24th Feb 2017, 06:42   #8101 (permalink)
 
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It goes from bad to absolute catastrophe for Labour. Destroyed in the Labour fortress of Copeland and reduced to electing a man with a very questionable moral compass in Stoke.

Copeland by-election: Tories deliver historic win over Labour

truly a beautiful night for British politics.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 07:16   #8102 (permalink)
 
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Labour winning Stoke will take some pressure off Corbyn.

Every cloud has a silver lining.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 08:09   #8103 (permalink)
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Well, after no doubt a morning spent gurgling into bibs for some, the result in Stoke at least does negate the ever optimistic chance of UKIP, and their new "somewhat less than factual" leader from having the meteoric rise so many on here wish for and indeed, have projected.

But, the question is, and I appreciate you may have to do some multi media research here, why should this decision, and even more so given the couples occupations, fill you with such evident glee.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 08:24   #8104 (permalink)
 
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Isn't that the OED entry for a politician?

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The glaring lesson to be learnt from yesterdays results is that @UKLabour isn't left-wing enough to motivate the electorate.
Latest tweet from Dennis Skinner.
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Well, after no doubt a morning spent gurgling into bibs for some, the result in Stoke at least does negate the ever optimistic chance of UKIP, and their new "somewhat less than factual" leader from having the meteoric rise so many on here wish for and indeed, have projected.

But, the question is, and I appreciate you may have to do some multi media research here, why should this decision, and even more so given the couples occupations, fill you with such evident glee.
UKIP beaten into second place by a categorically proven misogynistic women debaser and you think that is something to cheer about?
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 09:32   #8107 (permalink)
 
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The glaring lesson to be learnt from yesterdays results is that @UKLabour isn't left-wing enough to motivate the electorate.
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.......and the latest statement from John McDonnell is that's its all the fault of Tony Blair and Peter Mandelson

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...........John McDonnell appeared to blame the defeat on Tony Blair and Peter Mandelson, after they attacked Mr Corbyn a week before the by-election.

The shadow chancellor said: "We can't have a circumstance again where a week before the by-election a former leader of our party attacks the party itself."
I'm laughing so much my jaw aches. It is very fortunate they beat UKIP tho', had they lost that as well they might even have had the sense to get rid of Corbyn. As it is, with Corbyn in place, we look set for a Tory landslide at the next election. Happy days!
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Not sure if it was McDonnell or Tom Watson I was listening to on the Today programme when he said that the Copeland election result did not indicate any dissatisfaction with Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. Obviously I don't think for one minute he believes that, but I suppose he has to say it. It occurs to me that if JC had been a football manager he would have been out on his backside months ago.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 09:50   #8109 (permalink)
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More like the Wenger of politics - nice chap who is impossible to sack but has no chance of winning anything. Still, being a gooner he can look up to his hero and hope to hold on for 20 years.....
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 10:43   #8110 (permalink)
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UKIP beaten into second place by a categorically proven misogynistic women debaser and you think that is something to cheer about?
Making allowances for your lack of personal and intellectual development, you may recall I was less than complimentary about the Labour candidate. And we won't mention your comments about a certain Black, Female, Labour MP less you take exception.

However, as is now a well established process with you, you have not, along with many other questions over time, both from myself, and others on various threads, actually responded to the question I posed.

If you wish to promote yourself as being "smart" then here's, yet another, opportunity to dispel the more obvious and valid perception.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 10:47   #8111 (permalink)


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Black, female, MP (how you seem to love your labels). You mean land-whale Diane Abbott? Does her being black, female or morbidly obese make her immune to criticism? It's very odd that you choose to mention two irrelevant aspects of the land-whale Diane Abbott.

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Black, female, MP (how you seem to love your labels). You mean land-whale Diane Abbott? Does her being black, female or morbidly obese make her immune to criticism? It's very odd that you choose to mention two irrelevant aspects of the land-whale Diane Abbott.
You seem to be confusing insulting misogynistic hatred with criticism. There is a difference you know, though increasingly on JB it can be hard to spot.

Despite being a Labour supporter (in general - certainly don't agree with a number of their policies at the moment), if she were standing in my constituency I would have to think long and hard about whether to vote for her. However that is based on what she says, not her sex, colour or waist size!
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It's laughable that Labour are celebrating keeping Stoke and hailing it as a success. Both Stoke and Copeland were Labour safe seats and had voted that way as far back as anyone can remember.

They Lost only one rather than both of them. Their votes were still down on the previous election and the Tory/UKIP votes were up so hardly a good night.

Watching McDonnell try to spin it as a successful night just sums up this shower of raving, overgrown student activists. Still Corbyn is refusing to step down, how can these people be remaining in control?

We need an effective opposition, these lot are making things way too easy.

The irony is, it is these people that are driving the rise of UKIP and their like yet they will never see that. It is all the fault of white, middle class males who reside in the home counties.
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It's laughable that Labour are celebrating keeping Stoke and hailing it as a success.
Thatís politics, though. Every side will try and put some sort of positive spin on the most embarrassing results. If I were a Labour Spin Doctor Iíd be saying that a) they held Stoke on Trent comfortably against a strong UKIP challenge and that the failing Tories were beaten into third place, and b) they were a strong runner up to the Tories in Copeland, way ahead of the rest of the pack, despite the constituency having specific and unique local issues that didnít favour them.
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Ring ring....

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We need an effective opposition, these lot are making things way too easy.
Amen to that.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 14:13   #8117 (permalink)
 
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More fake news...

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Old 24th Feb 2017, 15:24   #8118 (permalink)
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It's laughable that Labour are celebrating keeping Stoke and hailing it as a success. Both Stoke and Copeland were Labour safe seats and had voted that way as far back as anyone can remember.

They Lost only one rather than both of them. Their votes were still down on the previous election and the Tory/UKIP votes were up so hardly a good night.

Watching McDonnell try to spin it as a successful night just sums up this shower of raving, overgrown student activists. Still Corbyn is refusing to step down, how can these people be remaining in control?

We need an effective opposition, these lot are making things way too easy.

The irony is, it is these people that are driving the rise of UKIP and their like yet they will never see that. It is all the fault of white, middle class males who reside in the home counties.
You don't actually follow current affairs and certainly the recent events regarding UKIP in Stoke very much do you ?

No matter, just another suitably ingratiating contribution for the chaps on here although I will admit you were correct with your definition at the end.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 15:41   #8119 (permalink)


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Classic leftism. Never admit defeat and whenever things are looking too rosy, make comparisons with UKIP or make vituperative comments toward anyone with a different opinion. It's telling that you resonate with the calumniation of white males. That's right up your street my commie friend.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 15:45   #8120 (permalink)
 
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Had to laugh at a Labour MP on the Jeremy Vine show today who blamed Labour's defeat in Copeland on Storm Doris. Seems that most labour supporters are either old or poor and cannot afford a car, therefore they stayed home because of the weather.
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