That video is perfect training material for a session on how NOT to arrive at a place and make enquiries about the activity taking place there.
Who told those morons that what they should do is pull up, stay in the car, shout "Woss goin' on mate?", then (the driver) to emerge aggressively and demand that filming is stopped, only to eventually retreat with some infantile behaviour, having already made themselves look like the a***holes they are, without getting the information they wanted in the first place.
How's about parking a little way off, getting out, walking over and asking politely what is happening? As in; "Excuse me Sir, could you tell me what you are doing, please?". OK, it's only a fantasy.
An aggressive approach provokes an agressive reaction. If that's standard behaviour from the Met no wonder they need to go about in pairs.
Still, it was fortunate they didn't spot someone of Brazilian appearance who needed to die because he looked a bit like a terrorist.
Speaking of idiots ,morons and those people who should not be let out in public without adult supervision.
What kind of idiot/moron would aim a small object at a policeman .Good job those coppers did not mistake it for a gun and 'Return fire"at the first nervous movement.
Funny how when the police are filming troublemakers at public events all these same idiots are the first to yap about privacy rights and how they feel intimidated and threatened by being filmed by the plod.
The sooner the police start carrying more cameras the better ,then you might have seen just how the camera was being used in a threatining manner that caused the police to exit the vehicle.
Although the police seemed a bit quick to back away.You would think that they might have looked at some of the videos that where in the camera.After all who knows what these people where up to.They might have been filming little boys and girls at play or potential targets for the next taliban attack. They should have at least asked for ID.
fitliker, could you do me a favour please? Could you look out of the window and check what colour the sky is wherever it is you are? Because I suspect you may have been abducted.
Alternatively, you may need to reduce the dosage just a tad.
fitliker, could you do me a favour please? Could you look out of the window and check what colour the sky is wherever it is you are? Because I suspect you may have been abducted.
Alternatively, you may need to reduce the dosage just a tad.
My thoughts as well, first aroused by the phrase "how the camera was being used in a threatining manner"
I think they beat a hasty retreat because they realised a fence was rapidly being prepared around them and they were in danger of being fenced in! Now that would be embarrassing!
I agree that the approach by the Police was confrontational - sometimes I don't think they know any other way. Maybe it's a ploy to establish 'authority' - whereas it serves to alienate the 'suspects' IMO . . .
BTW I think that fitlicker might just be pulling your plonker.
Ah.....now if the folks had erected the fence.....and refused to let the Coppers leave.....I can see several criminal charges that could have been readily used to arrest the entire lot. False Imprisonment, Interfering with a Police Officer, Acting like a Dumbass (That being a Southern Redneck POleese crime).....the Plod showed good sense in leaving and thus de-escalating the situation.
Mind you their approach was not the most polite.....I would have thought the famous line....." 'Ere then....wot's going on 'ere?" would have been the traditional approach?
Although we hear all sorts of crap about Cops like that being the minority and only a small percentage of the force, who otherwise, are trained to the highest standards and are true professionals, we are looking at the absolute reality here.
All one has to be, is very slightly right or left of the accepted norm and these bozo thugs will come down on you like a ton of bricks.
British policing today is an effing disgrace
Thier role is no longer to protect society from the criminals, it is to protect the state from society.
For example, can they demand entry to your house (without a warrant)?
What about entering private land (such as your garden)?
How about a private field?
What grounds do they need in order to 'investigate what's going on'? Do they have to believe that an offence is being committed? (How serious does the offence need to be?)
Can they pursue a motorist that they have seen acting erratically because they suspect that the driver might be 'drunk' - and force entry to a private house - or even just private 'property' such as the grounds of a house?
S.17 - power of entry if the police believe someone is wanted under a warrant, if the person has committed and indictable offence, if a person has committed one of a specified number of summary offences, if a person is unlawfully at large or if the police suspect that someone's life is in danger in the premises.
S.32 - to search premises after arresting a person but the search is limited to what the person was arrested for. Premises which can be searched include the place where they are arrested and the place they were immediately before that.
S.18 - power to search premises after arrest but has to be approved by an inspector or above. The search can be for what the person was arrested for or for similar offences.
Interesting to see the usual left of centre crowd straight in without anymore information than is presented by a short video clip!
1. What were the people erecting a fence doing there?
2. Did they have permission from the relevant authority?
3. Was that the police's first visit to the site or had they been previously and told them to move on as they were in breach of the law, (local by-laws included)?
And at least a dozen more questions in the same vein, that need to be answered, before anyone, having only seen that video clip, can offer any criticism.
Oh yes, and one person, fitliker, steps up and offers possible mitigation and is immediately accused of being off the planet, on drugs, etc. How mature! Rather like a militant students union rally at the LSE!
It is a good example of culteral insensitivety. Two people who obviously have very limited command of the English language. The meaning of the Policeman questions got lost in the slang he was using. If the police had used formal English politely with the correct elecution and intonation the foreign filmaker may have been able to answer his questions. Have the police stopped culteral sensitivety programms to allow police to better communicate with persons whose first language is not the Queens English or may have a cognitive disfunction ?
I like the bullet proof vests.....and no sidearm....seems a bit wrong sided. Having been a Cop in a former life....the firearm was essential kit...the vest at that time was just coming out and was a luxury.
But then the UK has no gun crime do they....as handguns, rifles, and the like are illegal....and BB guns have to be licensed. Before long they will be back to using Long Bows and Maces!
Ginny Viacente, Mike Green, and a group of others.....got to breaking into buildings....even toted off a Queen sized box spring and mattress set on top of the Patrol car!
They got caught.....were tried....convicted....and sent to Central Prison in Raleigh.
At the scene of a possible break-in (Open Door....middle of the Night) I noticed an interior door that had been kicked open....and the perp had left a beautiful shoe print.....complete with an impression of a logo tag......"Bates Float-A-Way"....just like the police issue brogan we all wore! Promptly notified the Sergeant and called for Crime Scene....to be briefed by the SGT of what had been going on.
