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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 17:43   #1 (permalink)
 
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Unmarked Police cars

I unfortunately drove past an accident on the M62/A1 junction at Ferrybridge on Sunday.

As well as the slightly mangled cars there was also a black Audi unmarked Police car parked on the hard shoulder of the motorway. In addition to the flashing blue lights on the rear parcel shelf and behind the front grill, there was also a roofbox and bike carrier complete with a several bikes installed on the Audi.

Watch out for the wolf in sheep's clothing on the M62!
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 17:46   #2 (permalink)
 
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Yup, they have a lot of them. On the lhr-lgw bit of the M25 they used to have Audis, Golfs and BMWs. Thames Valley (M4 and M 40) appear to have a mixed fleet aswell.
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 17:50   #3 (permalink)

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Sounds more like an emergency service managers lease car, perhaps they stumbled across the incident off duty. A traffic unit would not have a bike rack strapped to the back, far too dangerous.
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 17:54   #4 (permalink)
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In East Sussex, Newhaven, Lewes, Eastbourne, Brighton/Worthing areas the traffic Taliban are using a silver BMW estate.
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 18:00   #5 (permalink)
 
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Just seemed a bit strange to have the lights wired up behind the grill and the bike rack etc....
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 18:09   #6 (permalink)
 
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Hmm Bobbies on Bikes .......It"ll never catch on.
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 18:17   #7 (permalink)
 
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Very strange, as a person who drives the unmarked cars I've never heard of a bike rack being attached.

All I will say is that Traffic aren't the only ones who use unmarked cars so it may be a unit thats just been called to it because they were in the area.
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 20:09   #8 (permalink)
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Sounds more like an emergency service managers lease car, perhaps they stumbled across the incident off duty. A traffic unit would not have a bike rack strapped to the back, far too dangerous.
Much more likely, the M62/A1 area at Ferrybridge does have an unmarked car but it's a lot more Swedish than German
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You could probably outrun this one on a bicycle.

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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 20:52   #10 (permalink)

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In the States the police use about everything you can think of as unmarked cars. Normal sedans, pickups, vans, SUVs and even sports cars such as Corvettes and TranAms. The high end cost vehicles usually come from seized assets, ie drug dealers.

However, usually all the antennas they have mounted all over the back of the vehicle gives them away.
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That & the donut boxes on the dash...
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 21:19   #13 (permalink)
 
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The Charger does make a pretty mean looking 'Law Enforcement Ve-hicle'.

I understand in the U.S. that unmarked police vehicles are listed in city budget disclosures - including the year and colour of the vehicle. Is this true?
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 21:28   #14 (permalink)

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I understand in the U.S. that unmarked police vehicles are listed in city budget disclosures - including the year and colour of the vehicle. Is this true?
I really don't know for a fact, however, I would certainly believe so, if public money is spent on anything it must be reported to public. If not, one can always file a FOIA, Freedom of Information Act, request.
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 21:41   #15 (permalink)
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Is it possible that the unmarked black Audi was assigned to a 'senior' officer as personal transport and they had been out on a leisure activity when the call came in? It was, apparently, Sunday, after all . . .

If it was a major callout (or they were under-resourced) it's possible that a 'big chief' might attend despite being off-duty.

Of course it might have been a fire-chief . . .
(see above for explanation of the bikes)

(does the ambulance service have senior personnel that might be needed to attend such an incident?)

Alternatively (and less likely IMO) is that it was being operated by an undercover team who wanted to be able to follow into places where a vehicle wouldn't be appropriate? (I don't see that such would attend an RTA.)
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 22:02   #16 (permalink)

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Some ambulance service senior managers have personal unmarked lease vehicles with a response facility. I can only speak for the ambulance service but these managers respond to 'routine' emergency calls and larger scale incidents in and out of work time.

The lights fitted tend to be covert clear LEDs so the car can be used as a regular family vehicle as well; hence bike racks/roof boxes etc which is why I don't think the car in question is anything too sinister.

However, sometimes covert is not enough, one of my managers recently had his car vandalised when it was (presumably) mistaken for a bill car.
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when driving in nottingham, beware of,

plain dark blue volvo v70 estate,
plain dark green volvo v 40,
plain dark blue subaru imprezza thingy,

and my fave (as in VERY near nemesis),

dirty white focus with a habit of cruising at less than 20 in a 30 zone,
slowing to a crawl, hoping the impatient driver behind gives it a bootfull and passes at over 30.

sorry boys, i spotted your shoulder boards JUST in time
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 22:41   #18 (permalink)

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plain dark blue volvo v70 estate,
FJ06 OAS, perhaps?

DVLA website says it's actually black, but I agree with your colour perception.

There's also a silver Honda estate, btw. Seen it a few times of late on the motorway. May belong to the neighbouring force.
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 22:57   #19 (permalink)
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Black or brown Crown Vics here in Ontario. There are a few "exotics" but they are usually on loan or some kind of evaluation or pilot project. They come and they go, but if you see a Crown Vic (it is amazing how you learn to recognize them) behind or ahead you slow down.

This is what Toronto Police cars used to look like in the 70s and 80s until they got tired of tourists hailing them down and trying to get in the back.

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oh god it soooo easy to spot 'your boys'

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