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Old 26th Aug 2011, 09:53   #241 (permalink)
 
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There's a school of thought, especially among huggy fluffy's that putting it there would help the nation as a whole, bit like the Gemini's etc in Chile. Could almost fall for that myself, except if the place was going to go the way Of Mugabe land.
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On a more postive note ref. SA and the SKA.

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16 August 2011 - The MeerKAT radio telescope being built by the South African team preparing South Africa's bid for hosting the Square Kilometre Array (SKA) has passed its first test with flying colours
Square Kilometre Array (SKA) Africa
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The Chinese are busy assembling the rest of our 36 dishes, we also did eVLBI the other month once the fibre was hooked up.
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Only one Gemini in Chile, rh200, the other's in Hawai`i (I was UK project manager for Gemini). ESO, VISTA and ALMA are the other biggies just now.
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You are of course correct, sloppy language by me as always
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Doubt Joe Average will get much out of it, Mr Rh. No doubt there will be a land buying spree in the area if the ruling elite get wind of it going to SA and many new tenderpreneurs with ANC links will spring up to milk the new cash cow by loading prices and then getting in contractors to do the actual work.
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That's Joseph Malema isn't it?
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The biggest threat to SA's SKA bid is the potential use of fracking in the area despite what the politicians say.

http://www.iol.co.za/scitech/science/environment/fracking-will-not-jeopardise-ska-bid-1.1073583

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The Ministry of Science and Technology has moved to assure the public that controversial plans for hydraulic fracking in the central Karoo will not threaten the country’s chances of hosting the world’s largest radio telescope – the Square Kilometre Array (SKA).


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“We will ensure that the SKA is not jeopardised by the proposed fracking,” Deputy Science and Technology Minister Derek Hanekom said on Tuesday. “We will ensure that none of our environmental considerations, water, resource considerations, or our astronomy endeavours will be jeopardised by proposed hydraulic fracturing.”
http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46427:fracking-moratorium-extended&tmpl=component&print=1


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Val Munsami, deputy director-general for research development and innovation at the Department of Science and Technology (DST), previously said the shale gas initiative leaves a big question around the SKA.


At a Parliamentary Portfolio Committee meeting earlier this year, he said the department is concerned about the exploration from an SKA perspective.

“In terms of international lobbying strategies, it's starting to creep in. The international partners are asking questions about where this is going and how it will impact the SKA.”



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Old 27th Aug 2011, 11:31   #249 (permalink)
 
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Good to see both country's share the same sort of issue's. Our original site was centred at Milura station, a few hundred Km's east where it is now. Unfortunitly some company found it viable to mine Iron ore nearby, hence where the new site is. They have got all sorts of legislation protecting it now so in theory that shouldn't be a problem again
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While Zuma continues to posture around the unfreezing of Libyan assets in SA and bemoans the fact that the West shows no respect for the African Union, that very union continues to give us reasons for its moral illigitimacy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/african-summit-raises-fraction-of-14bn-famine-fund-2345159.html

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African leaders have come under fierce criticism after a much-delayed African Union summit to tackle the food crisis in the Horn of Africa raised less than 4 per cent of the shortfall needed. Only four heads of state – from Ethiopia, Somalia, Djibouti and Equatorial Guinea – attended the meeting, designed to gather urgently needed funds to help save the nearly 13 million people now at risk of starvation on the continent.

Only 21 out of the 54 countries in the AU made pledges, with $20m of the $46m promised coming from three states – Algeria, Angola and Egypt. Aid groups say they need $1.4bn to meet the shortfall in tackling the emergency. Jean Ping, chairman of the AU commission, announced the summit had raised more than $350m, but the bulk of the sum was in fact a $300m loan from the African development bank and not a grant at all.

Small countries such as Gabon and the Gambia pledged sums way above what was expected from the size of their economies, but several bigger nations donated paltry sums. Aid experts are particularly disappointed with the amounts pledged from oil-rich countries such as Nigeria, which promised $2m, and from South Africa, supposedly the continent's economic powerhouse, which offered $1.3m.
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I saw T-Bone in the paper today bitching about how the AU
should not recognise the new government in Libya if it ever
eventuates. What's his story? Thought he'd disappeared off
the political map.
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Adieu Gaddafi?
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Free farms and equipment = no support. And Malema wants to grab the lot.

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Black farmers in South Africa selling farms back to whites, in failure of land reform | StarTribune.com

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JOHANNESBURG - South Africa's minister of land reform says black farmers have resold nearly 30 percent of the white farmland bought for them by the government — often back to the previous white owners.

Minister Gugile Nkwinti announced the startling indicator of failure at Wednesday's launch of a long-delayed government policy paper to revitalize plans to more equitably distribute agricultural land, redressing historical wrongs. Seventeen years after white minority rule ended, the vast majority of agricultural land remains in the hands of some 40,000 white commercial farmers.

Nkwinti said the government had bought 7 percent of the country's commercial farmland since 1994. He said black farmers had resold about 2 percent.

Many black farmers have failed for lack of support.

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Black farmers have failed to understand that farming is labour intensive and requires forward planning and crop rotation and that the produce needs marketing and careful handling. They seemed to think that the stuff harvested itself, took itself to market, and the money came rolling in making you rich.

They have not learnt that having a few scrawny goats and chickens scavenging on an arid piece of land is not commercial farming. Until they grasp this, they will continue to fail, and of course the wit mense (*) will be blamed!


(*) White people

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Which is to say, better a wit mens than a foolish mens.
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Which is to say, better a wit mens than a foolish mens.
Depends on your point of view....
Black dude is given a formerly productive farm and a load of equipment to start being a vertebra in the backbone of Africa's new dawn (yawn) and suddenly realises this is too much like hard work, so he sells the farm to the white guy that used to own it........

black guy just got a load of moolah off the taxpayer, free gratis and for nothing... Fool??
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Better a witty fool than a foolish wit?
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Londoners slam poor quality of Luthuli House riots

LONDON. Londoners have scoffed at yesterday’s riots in Johannesburg, calling them “namby-pamby”. 15 year-old looter Dawn Sinclair-Thug said from her cell in Wandsworth Prison last night that from what they had seen from BBC footage, South African youth were “fackin’ soft, yeah”.

London’s youth expressed their disappointment yesterday with the quality of rioting performed by their South African counterparts outside Luthuli House in Johannesburg.

“I thought you Africans were supposed to be all wild and dangerous and everyfing,” said Sinclair-Thug. “But my nan gets up to crazier every Sunday at the nursing home.”

The Brixton Community Youth Association announced yesterday that they were running a collection drive to send every underprivileged South African youth a BlackBerry and a brick to raise the general standard of rioting. The Londoners said they were also willing to dispatch a team of feral teens to give emergency training on basic looting skills.

“From what I saw on the telly, they was just standing around burning flags and T-shirts, almost like they had some kind of political point to make,” Sinclair-Thug complained. “You don’t burn T-shirts, man, you fackin’ steal them.”

Sinclair-Thug suggested that their training would cover a number of components.

“First off, cover your fackin’ faces,” she said. “Secondly, pick your targets better. It seemed like yesterday they was hangin’ outside some building that had no Nikes inside it whatsoever, which is a total time-waster.”

She continued: “Thirdly, don’t waste violence on journalists. Save it for innocent local shop-keepers. They’re the ones gagging for a boot in the head.”

Meanwhile, in Johannesburg ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema announced early this morning that he was accepting tender applications to be the official supplier of rocks to disaffected SA youth, noting that there was a critical rock shortage in Johannesburg’s CBD.

Malema had earlier been called upon to settle confusion arising from his message to the youth to lead a “peaceful but militant” revolution.

“It is quite simple,” Malema snapped at journalists. “Peaceful but militant is like when you feel sad and happy at the same time. Like when Msholozi smiles at you and it reminds you of how things used to be but then you remember you just sprinkled ground-up glass into the filling of his lunch ciabatta.”

He suggested that peaceful but militant behaviour could be manifested in a number of different ways. “Give a journalist a hug, but in the process pick their pockets. Or offer to paint your MP’s house, and when you’ve finished burn it down. Just simple stuff like that,” he said.

Fashion analysts suggested that Julius consider tweaking his look for today’s session of his hearing.

“Yesterday he did black beret and Biko T-shirt,” said designer Kuku Froufrou.

“Today we suggest he ratchets up the revolutionary chic by arriving smeared with blood with the head of an MK vet under his arm.”
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Whistle blowers now face jail terms and corruption can be safely hidden by the pilferati. Another step out over the abyss for a country run on the appearance of democracy but more and more fine print prove it to be nothing more than a protected kleptocracy where the ruling elite can plunder at will.


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Info Bill: ANC gets its way

September 3 2011 at 11:24am
By ANDISIWE MAKINANA
Independent Newspapers

After more than a year of wrangling, compromises and reversals, and in the face of sustained civil society opposition, the controversial Protection of State Information Bill is close to becoming law.

On Friday ANC MP Elleck Nchabeleng punched the air with delight as Cecil Burgess, chairman of Parliament’s specially convened committee on the bill, announced it would be sent for printing.

Minutes earlier, committee members had approved the bill clause by clause, giving the nod to provisions that will see mandatory jail terms for the possession or disclosure of classified information.

According to the bill, anyone who comes across such documents should notify, and surrender them to, the police or a security agency – or they will be guilty of an offence and liable to a fine or imprisonment of up to five years.

This sentence increases to 15 years in the case of disclosing classified information relating to the intelligence services, and 25 years when the information is handed to a foreign state.

Until the last minute, opposition parties tried to persuade the majority ANC MPs to reconsider the three contentious clauses dealing with the “unlawful” possession or disclosure of classified information.

The DA, ACDP and Inkatha Freedom Party all proposed that the ruling party add a clause to protect those who reveal classified information in the interests of the public.

But the ANC responded that the time for discussion had passed, and the clauses were put to the vote.

The eight ANC MPs, excluding Burgess, out-voted the opposition

The committee will meet on Monday (Today) to deal with the financial implications of the bill in light of the proposal for a classification review panel, which will review and oversee status reviews, classifications and declassifications, and will require funding.

The bill will then go to Parliament for a debate and approval before it can be signed into law by the president. - Saturday Star
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It seems the ANC has learned a lot about repression, racism, and domination from the Nationalists who ran the country (better and with more freedom) prior to 1994.
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