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Old 27th Feb 2009, 14:16   #21 (permalink)
 
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 14:43   #22 (permalink)
 
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The Wikipedia blurb on Zulu gives Mangosuthu Buthelezi as the actor playing Cetawayo. I don't remember who played Cetawayo in Zulu Dawn.

Edit: Yeah OK I understand now. I'd thought that Buthelezi was king.

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Old 27th Feb 2009, 15:15   #23 (permalink)
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Is this a discussion about the virtues and/or défaillances of Zulus particularly, or peoples generally who inhabited the Earth a few centuries ago?

Is there an American alive today that could be readily compared to Abraham Lincoln?
Is there an Englishman alive today that could be readily compared to vice-Admiral Horatio Nelson?
Is there a Frenchman alive today that could be readily compared to the Italian-origin Napoléon Buonaparte III? (Nicholas Sarkozy doesn't come near, though he has aspirations...)

Those who originally traded a pitifull amount of blankets, beads and rudimentary implements in exchange for entry and eventual supremacy of North America or similar?

All these peoples have long-since departed. There is only today now, and historians to debate, well, history.

However, I'd like to believe that I might have been equally-proud to have been either conqueror or defender in those times. And not simply relying on the Papal or other edicts that conveyed the opinion that the natives were to be considered somehow sub-human (under God)...

So, what about the Zulus, and what of you (whatever you are, if you can still call yerselves summat in 2009...?!)
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 15:36   #24 (permalink)
 
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Indeed most of the great men are dead now and to tell the truth I'm not feeling to well meself .
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 17:21   #25 (permalink)
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Is there a Frenchman alive today that could be readily compared to the Italian-origin Napoléon Buonaparte III?
That was the chap who screwed everything up, eventually fancied his chances against Bismarck and von Moltke the Elder, lost the cup-final, and ended up a refugee in London. I suspect France could of late and today provide many such, and has.

Did you really have him in mind, or was it just a slip of the pen, and you actually meant his Corsican predecessor Mk I, who was a general of artillery at 24, had very high ambitions, and with them took France from a Royal disaster to a Republican disaster?
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Indeed, there are probably many such people around today but citizens don't vote for them until they are desperate, (Coming soon to a USA near you?)
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Old 21st Jun 2010, 20:56   #27 (permalink)
 
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I grew up with Zulus and speak their language. (after many years on the farm as a kid and then two years of studying Zulu language at University)

A very proud tribe and one not to be messed with
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Old 21st Jun 2010, 21:18   #28 (permalink)
 
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Zulus are found after the Yankees aren't they?

Or shall I just phonetic off?

Or maybe just Foxtrot Oscar.

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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 12:10   #29 (permalink)
 
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'The Naked Prey', was one of the greatest movies of the 60's. It was a cinematic masterpiece, hardly a word of dialogue and it was not needed. The film has stuck with me since I was young, so much in fact that i am now about to watch it again with a couple of cold ones!
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The Sindebele (or Matabele) in what is now Zimbabwe were an impiin T'Chaka's army that did not come up to scratch and fell out with him so did a runner across the Limpopo. Most of the Rhodesian African Rifles who fought in the bush war were Sindebile and paid the price whem Mugabes thugs murdered about 25000 in the 80's.
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 14:42   #31 (permalink)
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If you're interested in learning more about the history of the Bantu peoples, I can recommend a book called Indaba My Children by V Credo Mutwa (1964). We used to have a hardback copy years ago, but it's available in paperback now - I should get one. It goes in to the origin myths and legends of the early kings, and (apart from a few intro comments) is pretty much untouched by the events of the last few centuries.
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 15:11   #32 (permalink)
 
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Is this the Zulu you're looking for?
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Old 22nd Jun 2010, 16:51   #33 (permalink)
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pretty much untouched by the events of the last few centuries

I've met some people like that.
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The Naked Prey has been mentioned here a couple of times. Never heard of it before but I found the movie in 10 parts on yt, looks pretty wild.

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