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Old 16th May 2009, 08:01   #3421 (permalink)
 
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I'd venture zip. I seem to recall she was just reelected last year as well.
Two year term means you're never far from an election. She could be more open to a challenge than last year from someone to her left (hard to believe that's possible) if it's found she did indeed know about the waterboarding. Can't believe that would make too many happy in her extremely liberal district.
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Old 16th May 2009, 13:28   #3422 (permalink)
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Obama’s U.N. Mistake

America is now on a collision course with Israel.
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Old 16th May 2009, 14:34   #3423 (permalink)
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Just so long as Israel feel they have the confidence of the USA they will act accordingly. As soon as they feel they are on their own, (again), they will act to defend themselves as they see fit, they have themselves to protect, no one else. If the entire Arab Middle East turned against them what would they be up against? Saudi, Jordan, Syria and the Lebanon, possibly Egypt, Iraq is currently neutralised and Iran couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
Not quite sure what Pelobama is thinking here but I hope they are taking good advice.
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Old 16th May 2009, 14:49   #3424 (permalink)
 
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Two year term means you're never far from an election. She could be more open to a challenge than last year from someone to her left (hard to believe that's possible) if it's found she did indeed know about the waterboarding. Can't believe that would make too many happy in her extremely liberal district.
I doubt madam speaker has much to worry about in San Francisco.

Take a look at her district.

California's 8th congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The closest race was against Cindy Sheehan.
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Old 16th May 2009, 15:24   #3425 (permalink)
 
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Jeezus!


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They could always bring Ron Dellums back to run against her. He served for 13 (!) terms before Nancy.
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Old 16th May 2009, 16:14   #3427 (permalink)
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Sigh! This thread has become so boring ever since we stopped discussing GWB...?!

Am I the only one who happens to occasionally visit this thread today, coming away a little disappointedly? Wondering where all the right-wingers diasappeared to? Wondering why noone cares to raise or discuss BO's US goevenment policies (post GWB-era)...?!

Well, I always thought that brick and Co. were subsidised in some ways on this forum. Blame it all on the French (or economic downturn)...?!
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Old 16th May 2009, 17:06   #3428 (permalink)
 
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Nothing can beat Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) for bringing out the whackjobs. The BDS moaners still appear from time to time, mostly to complain about--you guessed it--GWB (even though it is Obama's game now).

No, these days we have common, run of the mill socialists, union thugs, europhile bureaucrat wanna-be's, and multi-billion dollar thieves run amok.

That plus good, old fashioned treasonous rats.

Here is Nancy Pelosi's latest attempt to back out of the $hit pile she dug for herself:
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“We all share great respect for the dedicated men and women of the intelligence community who are deeply committed to the safety and security of the American people,” she said in a statement issued by her office. “My criticism of the manner in which the Bush Administration did not appropriately inform Congress is separate from my respect for those in the intelligence community who work to keep our country safe. “What is important now is to be united in our commitment to ensuring the security of our country; that, and how Congress exercises its oversight responsibilities, will continue to be my focus as we move forward.”
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Old 16th May 2009, 17:08   #3429 (permalink)

 
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America is now on a collision course with Israel.
Good to see Obama respecting the United Nations as his predecessor rode rough shod all over it when it suited him. Israel has constantly disobeyed the UN.

Maybe a US-led shifting in the sands at the UN is just what is required to bring Israel into line.
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Old 16th May 2009, 17:12   #3430 (permalink)
 
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Read parabellum's post above. His assessment is more realistic.
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Old 16th May 2009, 18:59   #3431 (permalink)
 
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Re: Nancy

I don't think there's a chance in hell anything other than a liberal dem is going to win, but there's now an issue for liberals that she may be viewed as being on the wrong side of. New territory for her.
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Old 16th May 2009, 19:20   #3432 (permalink)
 
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I am not a fan of Madam Speaker, but I know an institution when I see one.

Somehow, I don't think she will be too worried about re-election. The first sentence hints as to why she has so many allies in Congress.

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Pelosi represents one of the safest Democratic districts in the country. Democrats have held the seat since 1949, and Republicans, who currently make up only 13 percent of registered voters in the district, have not made a serious bid for the seat since the early 1960s. Pelosi has kept this tradition going. Since her initial victory in 1987, she has been re-elected 11 times, receiving at least 75% of the vote. She has never participated in candidates' debates
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Old 16th May 2009, 19:40   #3433 (permalink)

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Nancy Pelosi is the San Francisco equivalent of Ted Kennedy. She will hold that seat as long as she desires. Now, her position as Speaker of the House is a different matter, she can be stripped of that title. There were a lot of Democrats that were against her becoming Speaker and many more were more or less forced into voting for her to become Speaker.

If she is proven to be lying about this CIA issue, she very well could lose her Speakership. However, her Congressional Seat is very safe.

As has been proven over and over again, if someone embarrasses the Democratic Party, and the Republican Party for that matter, they will quickly be thrown under the bus.
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Old 16th May 2009, 20:31   #3434 (permalink)
 
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Read parabellum's post above. His assessment is more realistic.
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Just so long as Israel feel they have the confidence of the USA they will act accordingly. As soon as they feel they are on their own, (again), they will act to defend themselves as they see fit, they have themselves to protect, no one else. If the entire Arab Middle East turned against them what would they be up against? Saudi, Jordan, Syria and the Lebanon, possibly Egypt, Iraq is currently neutralised and Iran couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
The trouble I am finding with parabellum's post, Matari, is that he appears to imply that having the USA backing their every move and supporting them blindly, as the USA has done for at least the last eight years, Israel is acting with restraint, and if they were to find they have lost their biggest and most influential backer, Israel would then lose all caution and start a war.

Is that your point, parabellum? That they would become more aggressive without their big ally? That as soon as they can't count on the USA to back them up and veto UNSC Resolutions, they would take on the whole of the Arab world with the exception of Iraq, possibly Iran, possibly Egypt?

I'm sure there is logic of some sort there...
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Old 16th May 2009, 21:15   #3435 (permalink)
 
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The House Majority Leader, Steny Hoyer, lost to Madam Speaker for the post by only 10 votes in 2006.

If she continues to be a shrieking albatross around the Democratic neck, they will merrily toss her under the bus.

Besides being delicious poetic justice, it would put a little pragmatic politician in the Speaker's role.

Hoyer is an old-fashioned corrupt politician, not a screaming looney-left liberal.

Nancy's home seat is safe, but hopefully she'll be as relevant as that other charming California congresswoman from the outer fringes, Maxine Waters.
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Ok airship,
Welfare man said he would close Gitmo, well thats not likely to happen as they have no place to send these terrorist.
The trials there that he suspended are probably back on track now, because it was the best way to deal with these terrorist.
I am willing to bet that if something bad happened that water boarding would be allowed and endorsed by B/O.
How many of Bush's policies that he canceled are being back tracked on now?
This idiot got elected promising ice cream for all, problem is he lied and had little ice cream and what he did have has long since melted in his lap!
Even the first dog wont touch it now!
Now with all the money he has spent our children and grandchildren will have to pay for his spending spree.
Hard to figure Notre Dame invited him for a speech tomorrow?

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Notre Dame, isn't this a catholic university that has high moral values based on honesty and religion.
I am not a religious person but think this is one of the last places this president should have been invited to.
Since his positions are exactly opposite from what this university teaches.
I guess he just ruined the graduation day for some that actually believed in this university and what it stood for!

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Old 16th May 2009, 22:22   #3438 (permalink)

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Notre Dame, isn't this a catholic university that has high moral values based on honesty and religion.
Really, I thought it was all about their football team.

Okay, back on track. Sorry, but I just couldn't resist.

As far as I know this will be the first time that President Obama will have ever been faced with a large crowd protesting against him. It will be interesting to see his and the media's reaction.


(If the mainstream media even bothers to report on the protesters.)
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The Catholic hierarchy routinely looks the other way relative to the continued pedophilia of some of their core leaders. Is their hysterical position against condums and abortions just a concern that they will not have a new crop of choir boys?

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The Catholic hierarchy routinely looks the other way relative to the continued pedophilia of some of their core leaders. Is their hysterical position against condums and abortions just a concern that they will not have a new crop of choir boys?
I'm not defending the Catholic Church, Notre Dame, or even the Notre Dame football team. What I'm defending is the right to free speech and peacefully protest. Even against the chosen one, President Obama (PBUH).

If President Obama and his devoted followers have such a problem with:

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continued pedophilia of some of their core leaders. Is their hysterical position against condums and abortions
Then President Obama should have turned the invitation down and his devoted followers should have pleaded for him not to go to Notre Dame.
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