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Old 12th January 2008, 19:39   #1 (permalink)
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Airbus Wins 2007 Order Race Afterall?

My friend, who works at the Airbus training center in Miami, told me that Airbus has definitely won the 2007 orders race despite recent press reports that suggested Boeing may have managed to keep the crown they won in 2006. Confirmation came when he saw facilities folks unfurl part of a huge banner on the ground in the parking lot late yesterday evening. According to him, the banner had the number "1427" in a yellow starburst and the number "53%" in a green starburst next to the words "Widebody Market". His internal sources told him that the banner is going to be placed on the roof of the training facility facing the runways at Miami International Airport from January 17th through the end of the month.
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Old 13th January 2008, 00:00   #2 (permalink)
 
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As a non EU citizen from the far north, living in the an EU country, all I can say is: Yahoo !

I hope the many Brits in here agree, cause you're also Europeans ... yes ?

And yes, it's a prestige project for both parties / blocks.
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Old 13th January 2008, 01:27   #3 (permalink)
 
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If 1427 is the number of Airbus aircraft sold in 2007

that would mean a number of orders announced earlier (Paris Airshow)

will move into 2008, ensuring a good start for 2008 totals.
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Old 13th January 2008, 12:46   #4 (permalink)
 
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Can someone please explain this playground obsession with who has sold the most aircraft?
Both companies manufacture good aircraft, all types of which have their good and bad points..
Both companies provide jobs both directly and indirectly, for hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, and constantly develop cutting edge technology to make aircraft safer and more comfortable.
Those who buy the aircraft play one manufacturer off against the other - it's called competition, and it keeps the businesses healthy.
These are the important points.
In twenty year's time most commercial aircraft will probably be made in China anyway - that'll put an end to the willy-waving!
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Old 13th January 2008, 13:17   #5 (permalink)
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There has been such 'competition' among road vehicle manufacturers for any years. Of course this usually means that the biggest has more service outlets (though not necessarily in proportion to the vehicles sold) and this can attract buyers to the brand (well at least from among the masses) so the momentum is sustained.
Out of interest, in the 1980s, the most popular car (which sold the most) in Denmark was the Lada . . .
It was also one of the cheapest (in a market there is no native manufacturer and where import duty was 180%) and it coped well with the cold.
I'm not sure that those buying airliners are so fickle. Maybe the salespeople will offer discounts in order to achieve orders from high-profile customers, but maybe those with full order books might choose to dissuade some customers to avoid time (delay) penalties for late delivery?
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Old 13th January 2008, 15:37   #6 (permalink)
 
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Out of interest, in the 1980s, the most popular car (which sold the most) in Denmark was the Lada . . .
Was in Denmark a couple of weeks ago, but didn't see any. As discussed on a previous thread, they're probably all back in Ladaland by now...
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hope the many Brits in here agree, cause you're also Europeans ... yes ? NO!!
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Old 13th January 2008, 19:28   #8 (permalink)
 
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He who sells the largest number of aeroplanes wins.

He who sells the aeroplanes with the highest aggregate cost (or profit) also wins.

You can have two winners.
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Old 13th January 2008, 19:29   #9 (permalink)
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Out of interest, in the 1980s, the most popular car (which sold the most) in Denmark was the Lada . . .
Was in Denmark a couple of weeks ago, but didn't see any. As discussed on a previous thread, they're probably all back in Ladaland by now...
Indeed, there are very few Ladas here in the UK, they were bought up and shipped back (many through Hull).
Funny old world, eh?

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Old 13th January 2008, 19:32   #10 (permalink)
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Who gives a toss how many orders they got?

What really counts is how many airframes they are delivering, as 50% of the orders will never be built anyway!
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Old 13th January 2008, 20:12   #11 (permalink)
 
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What really counts is how many airframes they are delivering, as 50% of the orders will never be built anyway!
Damn it! Now the secret is out. When Airbus and Boeing stock falls, it will be all your fault.

Draper, a European? Thin ice indeed!
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Old 13th January 2008, 20:40   #12 (permalink)
 
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In twenty year's time most commercial aircraft will probably be made in China anyway - that'll put an end to the willy-waving!
Not if they're being made there by Boeing and Airbus ("we'll buy them if you build them here"), it won't.
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Old 14th January 2008, 08:39   #13 (permalink)
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Damn it! Now the secret is out. When Airbus and Boeing stock falls, it will be all your fault.
Then I will be able to buy some cheap stocks! Bwahahahahahahaha...
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Old 15th January 2008, 05:03   #14 (permalink)
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Wow! Mainstream News Reads PPrune!!!

My post got quoted in a mainstream news article today. I didn't think they read stuff like this! My friend had better be right about the banner! I would hate to diminish the reputation of PPRuNe.
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http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpposted/archive/2008/01/14/rumour-mill-in-overdrive-over-airbus-orders.aspx
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Old 19th January 2008, 11:39   #15 (permalink)
 
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Hmmm, the plot thickens.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...01/banner.html
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Old 19th January 2008, 12:30   #16 (permalink)
 
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With the continuing fall of the US$, it will be interesting if Airbus can actually afford to build the aircraft that are on order


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