Am I alone in thinking the latest batch of terrorists were trained at Disneyworld?
1) Car crashes into bins outside Tiger Tiger. Terrorist (failed suicide bomber?) runs off. Car fails to do anything of note.
2) Car left near Trafalger Square - illegally parked. Car gets towed for being illegally parked to Park Lane compound. Workers think it smells of petrol so call Police over 12 hours later.
3) Car crashes into Glasgow Airport. 1 person badly burned and detained. Other person taken down by passing member of public (hats off to you sir!) and then cuffed by Airport plod.
Whatever next? A circus/comedy car painted red and yellow with wobbly wheels that fires custard pies at passing MPs?
How dare you be rational and cool headed in a situation like this. Don't you know that these scary terrorist are out to kill us all! This situation calls for outrage, fear mongering, a clamp-down on civil rights, ID-cards and loads and loads of media attention!!!
I was wondering about the same thing. In my experience of a few of these things, serious bombers' bombs usually tend to explode as planned, or at least get as far as the detonators going off as planned. And Al Qa'ida is serious.
These devices seem to have been very much for real, or at least the one in the Haymarket was, but in charge of a set of muppets for delivery. I can't work that out, to be frank.
The 21/7 bombs were faulty in their manufacture, but the attempted suicides were for real, as I recall, and their plan worked OK up to the moment they fired the detonators. (Apart from one, perhaps?) There's little that's common with this latest series of attempts.
Am I alone in thinking (OK conspiracy theory) that in the minds of the "higher ups" they arn't possibly too bothered about actually blowing them up!
Lets face it the best way to hit us the population is financially. Since 9/11 we have seen restrictions on air travel, what we can take with us, what info we need to give country of destination, after today we could see all sorts of costs and inconveniance even getting to airports. (I was in the US during the fluids on aircraft scare getting home was chaos).
I would say that someone's aims are being achieved
Trained at DisneyWorld. I don't think so CD. I've seeen the fireworks that Disney can put on. If these guys had been trained there then the GLA airport would be a smoking hole in the ground by now.
Anyway, amateur or not, they don't have to make big bangs to have an effect. Just look at the frenzy that the media is whipping up around it! BBC Website is doing its bit with a How safe do you feel in the UK? viewers comment page. Thankfully most peoples responses are along the lines the lines of 'stop whinging and get on with it'.
Terrorist organisations need publicity to survive. Remove the publicity and you cut off a major part of their being. Perhaps the media could then put the same effort into the real things that are affecting peoples lives. !
Terrorist organisations need publicity to survive. Remove the publicity and you cut off a major part of their being. Perhaps the media could then put the same effort into the real things that are affecting peoples lives. !
Absolutely, totally 1000% agree. Report the news, warn the public leave it at that
Watching Sky News, they were playing up the "panic, terror, car rammed at full speed after screeching by" angle. According to a chum who was there at the time, considering what happened there was little panic and more a resigned sense of misery that holiday plans were all screwed up. Not much screaming and panicking from what I could understand. Did someone not try to set fire to a BMi Embraer at GLA a couple of years ago? Was that a terrorist attack as well?
Being a wee bit judgemental aren't we LTNMan? First of all there's your comment about all LTN taxi drivers being Muslim (and?) and now you appear to be accusing a large part of the population of the UK of criminal acts. Hidden agenda somewhere, or just getting caught up in the hype?
Amateur or not it would behoove us to remember a home made nail bomb or a exploding tank of butane gas will kill you just as dead as a three million dollar cruise missile, although saying that and being a bit of a snob, one would prefer to be offed by a cruise missile.
Amateurish, that's exactly what I was thinking. They so called terrorists even failed to kill themselves in a jeep filled with petrol and butane canisters. I always find it remarkable that 'bombs' which fail to go off or are defused are always the most dangerous.
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he'd have killed hundreds, obviously."
sayeth one eyewitness. It's always the same. The media fill up with scary stories of the potential devastation. Even in Baghdad where they are particularly skilled at bombing helpless civilians they rarely kill more than a few score at a time. Apart from the 7th July killers, most of the other Al Qaeda wannabees in Britain have marked themselves out as bumbling amateurs. Thank goodness. I'm beginning to wonder if the real terrorists are in fact the media whose capacity for exaggeration knows no bounds.
The BBC's Frank Gardner, who is not a man given to hyperbole, just said that if these propane gas cylinders had detonated the explosion would have been enormous and could have killed 100+ people.
This is not a time for complacency, Corsair, amateurish though these attempts appear, we've had three very lucky escapes.
ONE propane cylinder killing hundreds of people???? C'mon. Only if they stood beside it warming their hands on the fire in a locked room. I have two of those things in my garden sitting beside my kerosene tank. Damm my complacency. It seems I have enough explosive power there to level my street! Have a look at these videos. The first is quite appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu6Hn...elated&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0u-dgueN8k Nobody died, not even the twits who blew them up. It's a total exaggeration. In fact Gardner's comment is exactly the kind of hyperbole I'm talking about. There is indeed a terrorist threat but it's being heavily exaggerated to detriment of everyone.
"Amateur or not it would behoove us to remember a home made nail bomb or a exploding tank of butane gas will kill you just as dead as a three million dollar cruise missile, although saying that and being a bit of a snob, one would prefer to be offed by a cruise missile."
The voice of reason...if this really is the 'Iraqi mentality' the it's not the effeciency of the individual bombs..it's the frequency..I personally feel afraid for my family.
From the point of view of the terror leadership, it doesn't matter too much that the device fails to detonate. The mere evidence of the threat is enough to put a stanglehold on everyday commerce, and to make the soft underbelly of our society doubt the motives of Western culture.
) that in the minds of the "higher ups" they arn't possibly too bothered about actually blowing them up!
C'mon. Only if they stood beside it warming their hands on the fire in a locked room. I have two of those things in my garden sitting beside my kerosene tank. Damm my complacency. It seems I have enough explosive power there to level my street! 
