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Old 20th Feb 2007, 13:20   #1 (permalink)
 
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U.N. urged to take action on asteroid threat

So The report says in today's News.

But what exactly do they propose to do if they find one on a collision course, and how effective would it be ?

There have been several ideas, but all have conceptual problems, the Idea of nuking it went out of favour long ago due to its ineffectiveness, but it might be considered a last resort if everything else failed. Painting one side white was another suggestion, but when it was realised how much paint was required, it was dropped also.

NASA seems to have decided the gravity tug is the answer. Meaning you park a big spaceship next to it for a long time when its still a long way out. The additional pull from the spaceship would change the orbit of the asteroid just enough to make it miss us.

But looking at the figures you would need about a 20 Ton spaceship 50 meters away from even a small asteroid (<200 meters diameter) for a year to knock it off course.

And just how do they propose to get a 20 ton spacecraft matching the incoming orbit of the asteroid, its not like parking a small car, the time required to get it in position would be enormous, as would the fuel. NASA itself thinks for the above example, 20 years of prior notice would be required.

What if we only get a few years notice ?

Given the technology we have at present and the fact that there isn't a single booster currently available that could achieve this feat, should we be realistic and just all kiss our a**e goodbye ?

Or, do you think (or hope) that humanity would all pull together in a single cause and find a way ?

Or, do you think this is just another ploy for NASA to raise further funding ?
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 13:26   #2 (permalink)
 
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I bet the lads at Top Gear would have sorted in a couple of days
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 13:41   #3 (permalink)
 
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Well if we are relying on the feckin UN we are all doomed,the 27th sub sub sub commitee on forming a commitee to work out the remit for the commitee about asteroids will still be debating the exact wording of the brass plaque that is to be afixed to their commitee room door when said bloody rock enters the atmosphere.
Same goes for the feckin EU,we will just have to rely on the Yanks again as per usual.
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 13:56   #4 (permalink)
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Let's look at this logically....NASA/ the U.N.? (and other governmental agencies, the scientists, the inventors, the mathematicians, etc.) It will probably take longer to figure out who's "in charge" of an asteroid deflection program than for an asteroid to get here. .....I'll be preparing to kiss my butt goodbye

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Old 20th Feb 2007, 13:56   #5 (permalink)

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It's an interesting one, I've often wondered what humanity would do if given eighteen month's notice or so.

Either

a) pull together in a display of solidarity, put aside national interest and dedicate all resources to the common good to try and provide a solution in a way completely contrary to the way mankind is used to working. Even if it was a long shot and required Bruce Willis on a flying drill.

or

b) fall apart in an anarchic bloodbath. With the lack of even a short term future there'd be a complete breakdown in society, money becomes worthless overnight, no-one sees the point in working, only martial law could control the mob, religious loonies proclaiming rival visions of judgement day attract the desperate masses, etc.

Sad to say, but I'd imagine it'd start off well and then descend into (b) within a matter of months.
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 14:06   #6 (permalink)
 
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It would be pretty tough luck for a big one to happen in our lifetime.
Mind you I can't think of a more deserving bunch of lily-livered liberals......
It would be amusing seeing how long human 'rights' lasted. I'd give it three missed meals.
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I think that would be far too late. Think of how long it takes to design, build, test and commission new designs. We must be talking of at least 2 decades to get ready, even if we began now.

The combined might of the UK cant even finish Wembley stadium, so what hope do we have if the UK government is involved.

And is it worth spending all that money and resource on such a small threat, the one in a billion chance ?

Should we just trust lady luck and play the ultimate lottery game ?

Bear in mind there have been several near misses in the last 10 years (near < 100,000 km) and there is at least 1 on its way in 2030'ish that has a reasonable chance of hitting.
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Wouldn't take a asteroid impact to return us to the jungle, just say all our power stations off line for a week, what is it they say? we are all just three meals away from being headhunters.
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 17:47   #10 (permalink)

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Tony Blair was asked for his view.

He proposed to tax householders living in the path of the asteroid. This will be offset by a reduction in council tax by one band when the asteroid hits, subject to proof that the value of the property was actually reduced.
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Willis is there so they obviously haven't left yet. If so, why are the incontinence pouches round their torsos full already
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 19:44   #13 (permalink)
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You could always paint the asteroid

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2481662005
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 20:18   #14 (permalink)
 
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Hmmm, ladies oft stated one made the Earth move forrem,so perhaps one could get Mohamet out of the way of the Mountain.
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 20:48   #15 (permalink)
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Oh please,
The U.N couldn't get organized enough to deal with a hemorrhoid!
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 20:53   #16 (permalink)
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Bombay is right, Bruce would fix it, yippeee kye yay mother ....er.......
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Might be a god send to put us all out of our misery...

As for the UN preparing for the aftermath... I worked for these tits for a decade... apart from wealthy consultants (ahem) nowt else will come of it.
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God that IS sad.
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Old 20th Feb 2007, 23:27   #19 (permalink)
 
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I know, I know... Lets hit it with some of Saddam's WMDs !!!
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Old 21st Feb 2007, 00:33   #20 (permalink)
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I'd really rather not know it was coming. We should stop these daft astronomers looking for them. They're supposed to be trying to find the question to which the answer is 42.
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