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Old 22nd October 2008, 05:48   #4021 (permalink)
 
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Wait til the 70% bracket kicks in at 50K, we'll all be paying it. As to 21% interest rates and recession, yes Jimmy Carter is one answer; the other is $10 Trillion in debt and the US cannot borrow to pay its bills, including Social Security.

Juud, I am trying to figure out what global disaster GWB has created? Yes, Iraq is a mess, but the World GDP has been up over the last 8 years-a billion people have been lifted out of poverty since the Reagan/Thatcher years. Iraqis even maybe better off, if they are not being raped and tortured by the Hussein clan. In US, housing prices hae fallen all the way back to....2003. Did anyone in the US government force anyone to buy those mortgage-backed securities? Is it not true that millions would move to the US in a moment, if given the chance? We have millions of illegals dying, literally in some cases, to come here. America is still keeping the peace in Yugoslavia. The US Navy provided far greater tsunami assistance than the Euros.

The US buys about $700 billion worth of goods and services from
around the world? Much of which returns as direct foreign investment. Have these capital flows been detrimental? Are foreigners stupid to invest in America?

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Old 22nd October 2008, 06:05   #4022 (permalink)
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I've just watched a looooooooong program about global warming. What hit me most about the political side, was the way in which both candidates slewed their global warning policies to suit the Waffle venue of the day.

Total meaningless rhetoric. Parochial pandering of the worst kind. If I had a vote, I wouldn't burn the fuel to go to the poll.



Some of the statistics on this program were bewildering. But what was perhaps the most bewildering, was how some very qualified people - those from major universities - agreed with me. Could it be they have spent time in the Red Lion back home.
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Old 22nd October 2008, 06:09   #4023 (permalink)
 
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I long ago came to the conclusion the electorate, as an entity, has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old...seriously.

Everybody blames GWB for everything under the sun especially the current crisis but imagine if he had truly had the power to intervene and stop it 5+ years ago...he'd have been flung out of the White House 4 years ago
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Old 22nd October 2008, 07:10   #4024 (permalink)
 
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So true. Have to raise two hundred million a month to tell people what they think, and why and how, and the most difficult, when to think.
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Old 22nd October 2008, 12:19   #4025 (permalink)
 
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It will take time, it is a start, it is not perfect. But it will lead to accountability, something desperately needed in entrenched bureaucracies like school administrations.
Again,

Just quoting what I'm hearing from the educational types at the meetings; Every new Administration wants to put their "mark" on education. So with every new Adminisrtation -- a new plan for Education. Maybe Kennedy will fix NCLB. Maybe not.

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Old 22nd October 2008, 12:36   #4026 (permalink)
 
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I long ago came to the conclusion the electorate, as an entity, has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old...seriously.
What was it Winston said -- The best argument agaisnt Democracy was a five-minute conversation with the average voter ? A bit harsh I think but not without some truth to it.

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Everybody blames GWB for everything under the sun especially the current crisis but imagine if he had truly had the power to intervene and stop it 5+ years ago...he'd have been flung out of the White House 4 years ago
Oh, it wasn't just "W". He had lots of help. The Republican Party, a Republican Congress and the "Masters of the Universe". He was just the leader of the band.

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Old 22nd October 2008, 14:17   #4027 (permalink)
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Palin's Wardrobe...

I wonder what Joe (or issit Sam?) Sixpack will say about this?

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(You may look foward to a 70% tax rate coupled with a 21% intertest rate, I'm not.)
Not that it'll concern me, but is there evidence for this?
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Old 22nd October 2008, 14:20   #4028 (permalink)
 
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Kennedy?
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Old 22nd October 2008, 14:28   #4029 (permalink)
 
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150k on clothes and accessories

Makes you long for the good ole days of the 400$ haircut, don't it?

Does she get to keep the wardrobe after her ticket loses the election? Or will the RNC just find somebody her dress-size for the next one? We should be told.
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Old 22nd October 2008, 14:43   #4030 (permalink)
 
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Powell's endorsement of Obama is a huge body blow for McCain.Providing we dont get Oprah popping into the WH for tea,I say why the hell not.He wants the ball badly.Give it to him and see what he does with it.
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Old 22nd October 2008, 14:52   #4031 (permalink)
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How many of you have a campaign's worth of nice suits at the ready?

If you are female, do you have a wardrobe worth of such wear knowing that the press is waiting to pick you apart?

Do any of you have such attire and in sufficient numbers for your kids?

Could any of you absorb the hefty price tag on short notice as she did?

I couldn't

So, if she'd displayed her family in their, probably, normal attire of jeans and flannel shirts (it's Alaska, for Christ's sake!), you'd have ridiculed her for being low-budget and local yokel (to an even greater degree than present).

Nice trap.



And as long as I'm at it, how come with Obama raising such unprecedented amounts of cash and the subsequent blitz of radio/print/TV ads, etc, he's not much further ahead?

Never mind that he signed a pledge to only take only the finite federal campaign dollars (nice keeping of his word.), if he is outspending McCain by nearly 4 to 1, why doesn't he have at least a 2 to 1 poll advantage.

I think (and, admittedly hope) there might just be a surprise come 4 Nov 08.
 
Old 22nd October 2008, 14:54   #4032 (permalink)
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Does she get to keep the wardrobe after her ticket loses the election? Or will the RNC just find somebody her dress-size for the next one? We should be told.
Answer has already been given by the McCain campaign team:

"It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign."

So probably they'll go to the Smackover First United Methodist Church, Smackover, AR. in case Palin doesn't reach the WH.

Oh dear BH, I've seen better spins than this one, you're wearing out
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Old 22nd October 2008, 15:01   #4033 (permalink)
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Capt K,

Have you a better explanation?

Please, share with me so I might better understand the ways of the wicked world, in particular, the RNC.

I look forward to this.

Let me get some popcorn...
 
Old 22nd October 2008, 15:10   #4034 (permalink)
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BH, I don't have any other explanation that Palin is, just as I always thought, a high maintenance lady, whos concerns for the income of Joe and Jane 6-pack is highly hypocrite.

Now what's your explanation, this time honestly, please.

I mean, are these the Republicans who got their panties in a twist about Clinton's and Edward's haircut?
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Old 22nd October 2008, 15:45   #4035 (permalink)
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Capt K,

You presume that I don't post my genuine opinion here.

You are mistaken.

I have no idea why the money was spent, I gave my best, most logical guess.
I don't know nor do you for fact.

Based on income, education, and life experiences, Palin is far closer to the average American voter than Clinton or Edwards and their expensive haircuts.

Clinton's, by the way, was aboard Air Force One, holding up traffic at LAX. It wasn't so much about the cost of the trim (no pun intended), but the arrogance of the action.

Edwards, well, I think his actions speak for themselves.

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Care to address the disparity in money spent vs. voter support?

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Old 22nd October 2008, 15:57   #4036 (permalink)
 
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Under BHO's tax plan, according to left-leaning Brookings, 49% of voters will pay nada, zero, zilch in income taxes and 11% more will pay less than $1,000 annually. There is no way the remaing 40% are going to fund the government, Social Security and Medicare out of their incomes. The marginal rates for those over $150,000 are approaching 50% and higher when state taxes are included. The tax rates are going up and the incomes they come in at are coming down, just not until next year.

How long does anyone think the "rich" are going to stand and deliver? There are plenty of tax havens offshore, plenty of "rich", self-employed who could simply retire comfortably and pay far less income tax. The cash economy will grow tremendously. Tax evasion of this sort is rampant in Europe and will starve the Feds. I spoke with a Danish pilot recently, built his new house mostly outside the taxable economy.

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Old 22nd October 2008, 16:38   #4037 (permalink)
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You presume that I don't post my genuine opinion here.
So, you're perfectly alright with Palin (and probably her family) spending $150K in 2 months like in shops on 5th Ave?
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Palin is far closer to the average American voter than Clinton or Edwards and their expensive haircuts.
Have you seen Jane Sixpack on 5th Ave lately? Palin spent almost $5000 on a haircut and make-up, now who's far closer to the average American voter?

As for Obama spending more money on his campaign, I believe Obama decided to decline public funds, which lets him raise an unlimited amount of money privately, where McCain accepted $84.1 million in taxpayer money for the general-election campaign, barring him from raising additional funds. But he can raise money for the GOP which then can spend this money on behalf of his campaign.

I'm sure McCain would spent the same amount if he was able to raise it, but it seems he can't. All the more reason for McCain to keep Palin on a leash and stop her spending habits.

Question is; who wants to donate money to an old man with a VP candidate with a hole in her hand?
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Old 22nd October 2008, 17:04   #4038 (permalink)
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A fine example of union thinking

Nothing says "God Bless the USA" like bargaining for more money on the memories of the fallen.

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Union wants 9/11 off or extra $$ to show up

PEABODY, Massachusetts (AP) -- Police in Peabody, Massachusetts, could be getting holiday pay on the anniversary of the September 11, 2001, terror attacks in what may be a first-of-its-kind contract provision.

A proposed new contract between the city and the police union would make the anniversary a paid holiday. The proposed contract still needs budgetary approval from the city council.

Officers would receive an extra 25 percent pay for working September 11.

Representatives of the International Brotherhood of Police Officers and the International Union of Police Associations told The Salem News they knew of no similar contract provisions in any other city.

The New York Police Department, which lost 23 officers at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, does not recognize the day as a paid holiday.

A union representing 24,000 NYPD officers has tried during contract discussions to get extra pay for anti-terrorism work in the years since the September 11 attack but has been unsuccessful. Patrolmen's Benevolent Association spokesman Al O'Leary said the pay would be more appropriate than extra pay for one day.

No members of the Peabody force were killed on September 11, but some went to New York after the terror attacks to help the city recover
 
Old 22nd October 2008, 18:03   #4039 (permalink)
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Unexpected support for McCain?

Who needs friends, when you have enemies like this?
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Old 22nd October 2008, 19:16   #4040 (permalink)
 
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Ref campaign funding-McCain sponsored the latest campaign finance bill (stupidly in my mind-it is a clear violation of free speech) and BHO had promised to abide by the law. But decided, after seeing his fund-raising potential, to forego the limits. Another promise blown, and some doubt he is going to raise the roof on taxes??

Palin spending-should be investigated as a drive-by shooting be the wholy-owned subsidiary of BHO known as the Mainstream Media.

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