Your concern about voter rolls being purged is valid, and I don't support in any way disenfranchising legitimate voters even if they hold views opposite to mine. The right to vote is fundamental to our democracy.
But I think the link you posted, which I read, is an attempt to deflect from the real story, which is ACORN fraud, with a sidebar being Obama's connection to it.
State laws vary, but always provide a legitimate voter whose name does not show up on the register on election day the opportunity to cast a conditional vote, which will be counted upon examination and determination that the voter is indeed legitimate. Even those without a photo ID.
I believe if you make the mildest effort to correct the denial of your voter authenticity if wrongfully purged for whatever reason, you will prevail.
The emerging danger in this election is that ACORN has enrolled over three million voters, concentrating on urban areas in swing states, and that a significant number of them, perhaps in the millions, are out and out frauds. These frauds occur most often in cities under Democrat control, as almost all our larger cities are, and action against them is taken reluctantly as virtually all ACORN votes are Democrat votes.
There is much to this story to be revealed as we approach the election, and it has broken into mass media exposure, giving it the potential to impact the election.
ACORN are a complete bunch of amateurs at voter fraud - when you're up against the likes of Katherine Harris and the Supreme Court you need to be much more practiced at defrauding millions of voters.
I'm married to a red headed Irish/Sicilian and have been happily for 20 years.
really...so why weren't you elected for the Nobel Peace Prize? Not sure if it's the case, but I heard for being black Obama needs at least a 10% cushion to overcome the racist factor? Re Autobahn, too many Staus and Baustelle to go fast nowadays....
the likes of Katherine Harris and the Supreme Court you need to be much more practiced at defrauding millions of voters.
It seems you are confusing conspiracy theories and wild political rhetoric with provable fraud. Even Democratic Party funded investigations proved no defrauding of "millions of voters" in the election you are alluding to. Let alone many non-biased, non-partisan studies of the election.
It always never fails to amuse me to no end, that when the false accusation of 'defrauding voters' by Republicans are brought up, that the fact that the Democratic Party did their utmost to declare thousands of military absentee ballots invalid, is never mentioned. Funny that.
Besides that, nobody, I mean nobody is as good as the Daley Democratic Political machine of Chicago is when it comes to voter fraud.
really...so why weren't you elected for the Nobel Peace Prize?
At times I really agree, I really do.
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Not sure if it's the case, but I heard for being black Obama needs at least a 10% cushion to overcome the racist factor?
Well I'll have to say I have not heard that, however, as nearly every poll taken up to this point show that 97% of afro-Americans are going to vote for Obama I really do not think it is pertinent.
There is no poll that is going to be correct in predicting the winner unless there is at least a 20 point lead by any given candidate. Even then, only when that poll or polls are released the day prior to the election.
Even then a poll taken, say at a Country Club, will show vastly different results than one taken at a welfare office.
Anyway, still three weeks to go, a lot can still happen.
O'jahnae Smith is ready and registered to vote this November.
There's only one problem: She's 7 years old.
The Connecticut girl is 11 years too young - and nobody in her family knows how she ended up on a voter registration form submitted by ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
"She's registered to vote?" said a surprised Jerome Smith, O'jahnae's teenage brother. "She's too young to vote." But that didn't stop someone from forging the child's signature on a voter registration card and giving her a fake birth date that upped her age to 27. The family told The Post a drug-addicted relative may have given the bogus card to ACORN.
Voter registration fraud complaints like these continue to mount for the group, already under scrutiny in 11 states where hundreds, if not thousands, of new registrations are being questioned......
Your response deserves some enlightenment for the crowd. You state that
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You see, you say "It is clear". The author uses the words, "They seem", "apparently", "I had been under the impression", " apparently", "Evidently", "seem to be"...you get the idea.
Because some will read your post and not read the article, here is a good portion quoted:
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Other Obama supporters have threatened critics with criminal prosecution. In September, St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce warned citizens that they would bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Obama that were "false." I had been under the impression that the Alien and Sedition Acts had gone out of existence in 1801-02. Not so, apparently, in metropolitan St. Louis. Similarly, the Obama campaign called for a criminal investigation of the American Issues Project when it ran ads highlighting Obama's ties to Ayers.
These attempts to shut down political speech have become routine for liberals. Congressional Democrats sought to reimpose the "fairness doctrine" on broadcasters, which until it was repealed in the 1980s required equal time for different points of view. The motive was plain: to shut down the one conservative-leaning communications medium, talk radio. Liberal talk-show hosts have mostly failed to draw audiences, and many liberals can't abide having citizens hear contrary views.
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Corporate liberals have done their share in shutting down anti-liberal speech, too. "Saturday Night Live" ran a spoof of the financial crisis that skewered Democrats like House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank and liberal contributors Herbert and Marion Sandler, who sold toxic-waste-filled Golden West to Wachovia Bank for $24 billion. Kind of surprising, but not for long. The tape of the broadcast disappeared from NBC's Website and was replaced with another that omitted the references to Frank and the Sandlers. Evidently NBC and its parent, General Electric, don't want people to hear speech that attacks liberals.
These three paragraphs show real actions by the authorites and corporations to "shutdown" opposing opinions on BHO. Readers can decide, I recommend reading Barone's full article. He was a Democrat pollster for Peter Hart.
GF
BTW, are you ever going to answer the questions on constitutional government, what powers the Congress and President should have, how free citizens relate to that government. In other words, what would a true-BLUE Democrat consider constitutional government in the US? Some principles, perhaps. For certain, BHO doesn't have any; but then neither does McCain most of the time.
But at least Obama can speak in coherent sentances, is educated,
Spelling, please, if you are going to critique another's sentence structure, please spell correctly. Bush, btw, has a Yale undergrad degree and a Harvard MBA, might actually be one of the most educated Presidents in modern times,as was Clinton. Carter had exactly the same education as McCain as did Ike, military academy. Kerry actually had lower grades than Bush 43 at Yale. Proof that education only mildly relevant in the real world. I agree speaking is not a Bush family strong suit, self-evident as Thomas Jefferson would say.
Next, coherent sentences filled with dreamy rubbish are still dreamy rubbish. For example, he states, on his website, 95% of Americans will get a tax cut under his proposal. Well, 40% of Americans do NOT pay US income tax due to things like EITC, deductions and tax credits already in existence and taken, SO HOW IS THAT 40% GETTING A TAX CUT? Rubbish, but coherent rubbish OR WELFARE disguised as a tax cut. Evidently in BHOland, his words mean what he wants them to mean, like Alice in Wonderland.
But, as I tell my wife, the way Bush speaks is like the umpteen million Texans, along with the stride. Massachusetts people are SOOOO provincial, if a nuke hit New York, the Boston Globe headline would be Boston man dies in NYC explosion
However, as it's the only game we've got, one of them will be picked, even if only one voter votes (recent movie on a dead heat with one voter having to decide - Kevin Costner, title escapes me. It flopped at the box office, surprise!).
So, for many it's Obama with 'change and hope' despite having no idea what that will entail, as long as it's 'change from Bush.'
For another large block of voters, me included, it will be pulling the lever for McCain, a lackluster conservative at best, but he's the lesser of the two evils we're faced with.
If the Congress remains or grows more Democratic, then a Republican in the White House can help keep the pendulum from swinging too far to the left - also regarding the Supreme Court as several replacements are expected during the next four years.
If a Democratic President teams up with a really left-leaning Democratic Congress, led by Pelosi and Reid, then I fear (happy GTF? I FEAR this scenario), then along with an uber-left Supreme Court, the political and governmental institutions will go too far left and cause too much harm to our nation.
Can you imagine today's economic clown show being handled entirely by one party or the other in the executive and legislative branches? If it were the Republicans, then perhaps, the bailout might not have passed and/or not have been as intrusive or, in my mind, un-Constitutional. Or it might, I don't know.
If it were, or will be a very leftist Democratic triumverant (sp?), then I think you could liken us to a much larger France (but with, mostly, better hygiene.). The central government would become even more so on social issues and less so on security ones. While I'm not happy about Uncle Sam having too much power in any aspect of my life, at least the priorities should include keeping the country (and me) physically safe.
In the "you can't believe it true" column, another 60s radical working for Barack Hussein Obama. Marilyn Katz, former head of security at the SDS is alive and well in, you guessed it, Chicago. The Daly machine appears to be singlehandedly reviving the 60's, one radical at a time. Soon, Charles Manson will be organizing Felons for The Messiah.
You should know, Tom Bradley was leading Deukmajian by double digits on Election Eve and lost a squeaker for California governor. Now know as the "Bradley effect", similar to David Dinkins v. Rudy Guiliani, and Douglas Wilder v. somebody; all black candidates who lost while leading in the polls.
Times might have changed and every election differs, YMMV, so might BHO's.
Nothing would make me happier than you telling me I told you so come election day.
I do agree it will be a close election, at least in the popular vote. Even with the (capt)Kaos in the market, the sizeable lead one might expect of Obama isn't there.
As far as a black backlash, yeah there's no denying it exists to some limited extent. However I don't think the social predicate is in place that allowed elections being tipped based on the color of ones skin as happened in the past. Even if it does, it's likely to be offset by black voters flocking to BO because he's (half) black. Along those lines, how many blacks never would have even registered to vote (thanks ACORN, now they and the family pets can vote) if the Dem's ran Joe Biden on the top of the ticket? One fringe element will cancel out another one. Blacks have also made major inroads in the past decades in politics, hell I find it curious when I see a Mayor of a large city and he's a white guy. Have to check and see who replaced Kwami. Senators, Rep's, Guv's, Chairmen of the JCS, Sec of State, Speaker of the House (uggh) all held by other than white males. I've even seen a black QB throwing to a speedy white receiver.
The fact is BO has run against black, brown, white, male, female, in local races and on the national stage the past few months to few years and has won. I also know Republicans suffer from a negative brand image that pushes Obama's star artificially higher.
I think voters will go in the booth and do a gut check and vote with that in mind.
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West Coast, your DOW 10,000 call in 12 months is a return and turnaround of 19% in one year and you are only just a entering recession/depression which will last between 3 and 20 years.
Why don't you buy $10,000 worth of DJIA Index Call Options with a 10,000 strike price SEP 09 Expiry at a 10% discount. If it hits you may be loaded (looking at the Delta probably maybe 30K). If it closes at 9999 or less the seller keeps $10,000.
C'mon mate its only a 19% return and your economic fundamentals are fantastic under The Duck!!
Edited: I just found out I can't sell naked US Options for some reason.
Bear markets take at least 3 years to play (at least!) and thats in the normal business cycle when generally property markets rally (eg DOW hi in 2000, bottom 2003). But that just after Senator Gramm (R) decided that not enough greed was being satisfied. The Gramm bill played out in the next greed fest. Chickens want to roost now.
As a ex-cricketer (a good one), a part time golfer (very average at best) and a half decent ATC the key to success was always analyse where you went wrong after you admit you went wrong, its the only way to improve your game.
But first one has to admit that its gone wrong and (and therein lies the key).
A lot of jaw flapping on here but only one willing to back it with their wallets via Binos bet or via the NYSE.
Nice move on SKYW by the way Westie. Good stock pick - making money when your govt has sold the world to a few buddies on Wall Street (and then they use it and then toss it in the shitter). Buying a good stock, an honest pick, unlike like selling a 30 year mortgage to an 80 year old whose whole pension won't cover the mortgage when it 'resets'.
Maybe a wee rally soon to make you feel better and an opportunity for Sarah to say something stupid. The number of straight down days is now eight, a record. It would be almost a mathematical impossibility to have a ninth.
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I'm reasonably sure the DJIA will make it to 10K within a year, I'm that confident in the greed of investors.
Denial and fantasy hand-in-hand.
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How about you quit gleefully prognosticating gloom and doom
I have teenage children. Smart children who want good careers. I want prosperity but I can see reality and I know something of markets.
You can't turn $1 into say $8 by lending it to guy, who lends it to a guy who lends it to a guy etc) and keep it circulating around so 8 people think they have $1 when only one $1 exists and they all think they have a 1$ ins assets except the guy with the $1 bought a garden gnome now worth 50c so now we have 50c in hard assets backing $8 in 'hologram' assets . Its fantasy mate! Snake oil!
This better be the last time the Republicans have fciked the world over, twice in 79 years is enough.
Next, coherent sentences filled with dreamy rubbish are still dreamy rubbish. For example, he states, on his website, 95% of Americans will get a tax cut under his proposal. Well, 40% of Americans do NOT pay US income tax due to things like EITC, deductions and tax credits already in existence and taken, SO HOW IS THAT 40% GETTING A TAX CUT?
- making money when your govt has sold the world to a few buddies on Wall Street (and then they use it and then toss it in the shitter). Buying a good stock, an honest pick, unlike like selling a 30 year mortgage to an 80 year old whose whole pension won't cover the mortgage when it 'resets'.
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