Had Bush (and I've stated this repeatedly over the years) had the guts to say "we are going to invade these camel riding bastards because they have what we need and are threatening our supply of it", in other words been honest, he may have garnered a lot more support.
Ummm .... Yes, although I do suspect he was told and did believe the WMD were there, and Saddam did little to quiet him down.
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The liberals would still have hated him, but sometimes brutal honesty is admired.
Yes. Used to be. But not here. I quoted Lord Palmerston (of March 1, 1848) here a few days ago:
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We have no eternal allies and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow”.
Pick one (definition of poverty). It doesn't matter for my purposes and I can't imagine why it would for yours.
It matters a LOT to every taxpayer, and to the povertymongers (ACORN, etc.) who seek to expand their clientele.
And there must be dozens of poverty threshholds from region to region, from administration to administration. What might pass for poverty in the US, Canada, or most of Europe would be downright luxury, or at least upper-middle-class, in most of Asia or Africa.
Now what is that saying? No individual responsibility for education on the po's folks of GA? Or, as most liberals would say, government isn't spending enough? Which is another way of saying-not bribing the NEA enough. I know you hate Wal-Mart, they are successful and stupid people like working and shopping there-elements that Democrats and liberals find so distasteful. Why are Democrats, who say they support the poor, spend so time looking down there noses at them? Detesting them, as they as for their votes.
Reading through the ALEC report, I guess all those people migrating to Georgia are merely stupid to decide on a life there. The one successful part of the auto industry is all the foreign makers, down South, there're stupid, too. And the massive out-migration from places like New York and the Northeast is just a freak of nature, not caused by anything like high taxes, corrupt politics (most Northern states are essentially Democrat-run; two party rule in NY, RI, MA, NJ, among others, ended in 1964 or thereabouts), high estate taxes, massive barriers to starting and running small businesses, etc. Yes, all that folks and businesses in the successful states must be STUPID.
Perhaps, you could provide some details on your experiences in setting up a business and meeting payrolls to enlighten on how much better business must be in the Northeast. My barber could not run her 6-person business, if they were employees rather than "contractors"-health costs, taxes, etc just cannot be borne by her customers. Business in MA is just a non-stop downhill slide.
GF
Yes, I read Krugman, he still is for an indefensible bailout. He likes government, what's new.
The definition of 'poverty' in western liberal terms is simply being in a lower percentile of affluence vs the higher percentiles within the same sample set of your fellow citizens.
So, Moo, you have chosen to define poverty as something you can dismiss as politics and is incurable. Gee, I'm surprised -- not.
And there must be dozens of poverty threshholds from region to region, from administration to administration. What might pass for poverty in the US, Canada, or most of Europe would be downright luxury, or at least upper-middle-class, in most of Asia or Africa.
Again, a non-answer. Here's a simpler question. Does poverty exist in the U.S.A. ?
Commodity huh ? If you're ever in a car wreck -- lying bleeding in a ditch -- let me know what price you'll put that "commodity".
No one in America is lying in a ditch bleeding and being refused medical care. The point is that medical care is NO different than any other service or product--when the purchaser becomes disconnected from the cost of the service, it will be used inefficiently. Put the cost on someone else, be it the government, the insurer, the employer, and the purchaser has no incentive to use it efficiently and experience tells us that they don't. Visit an inner city emergency room on Friday, see the shot and stabbed brought in and treated. It is ugly, but not heartless.
Poverty. First, I am glad you seem to think BHO shares your compassion for the poverty stricken. Apparently his compassion doesn't extend to his own half-brother and Biden's compassion includes a mere $360 p.a. on average. Poor George Obama is living in a 6 x 10 hovel and BHO pays no attention. Despite each of them living in $1 million-plus homes and having wives with large incomes and careers.
I'll say this-in America poverty, by any world-wide standard, is NON-EXISTENT. Extreme, yes, until you wander through Mumbai, Luanda, Libreville, Rio or Lagos. I have and can say there is no poverty in America. Poverty, in America, is a political statement of envy used by pols to rouse the political faithful; it is not poverty. One billion people live on one dollar a day or less, that's poverty.
Commodity huh ? If you're ever in a car wreck -- lying bleeding in a ditch -- let me know what price you'll put that "commodity".
Of course it's a service commodity, and emergency services throughout this country will render aid first, and ask questions later, even if you are fleeing the gendarme after causing someone else a fatal accident.
Try that in most any country in Africa; they'll want to see the color of your money first. (And don't accept a blood transfusion if at all possible - A very high percentage of donated blood is HIV contaminated.)
The way the polls are running, Americans are once again believing the pols telling them the can have a free lunch courtesy of Uncle Sam. This has been the tale since 1933, it has worked for the Democrats so they are sticking with it and the people are buying it. Pension without work, no problem; old age care for a mere 2%, no problem; wars without pain, no problem; cheap energy, no problem; safe cars at no cost, no problem--it is disgraceful.
Among all the bailouts, the auto companies is the worst; makes the Wall Street one look respectable. Companies that have consistently produced dreck; have not been ready for any of the changes in the industry; have given away the store to the UAW are....rewarded with free money!! Free, yes, they could not have gotten the funding in the market. Why? Because the pols have forced the silly CAFE standards and alternative fuel cars on them and they cannot compete with car producers-Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mercedes, BMW, Hyundai, etc. Those companies compete with fuel-efficient cars, why can't the US companies? Why can't the pols keep the mitts off the industry? Detroit would compete well were it not for Washington pols telling them what kind of cars to produce.
I think Palin won this debate but why the heck do we care about the VP debate over the POTUS debates. Palin connects to the common person while Biden appears to be the classic politician. That's why she appeals to middle America. Felt sorry for Biden when he broached subject of his wife and child who died just after he was elected in 1972, thought he was going to break down there which I would not have blamed him for.
Ozzy
I felt the same for Biden at that point in the debate.
I still do not think that Palin is worthy of being POTUS, an office which I am sure she will be appointed ,if McCain is elected as a 72 year old with his medical history.
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